Good evening,
I wonder if you can help me.
I purchased a 6 year old used car with 90K miles on the clock from a dealer (200 miles away) in September 2020. Since then I have done about 2.5K miles on the car and have recently had a problem with loss of power (limp mode) and EML light coming on. This happened a few weeks ago (see timeline below).
I took the car to my local garage for diagnosis for which I paid £85 and they advised that the turbo had failed. The garage advised that the repair would involve a replacement turbo, turbo actuator & oil & filter change at a cost of £1,440.
As the car was supplied with a third party warranty, I provided the warranty details to the garage who then contacted the warranty company. The warranty company refused the claim – Having followed up with the warranty company they said that the turbo would not be covered.
I contacted the dealer that I purchased the car from to explain the situation who advised me that they had other customers who had experienced similar issues with the warranty company and that they would speak to the company on my behalf. The dealer advised that this may be due to the cost quoted by the garage being deemed too high and advised that I should look for a used turbo from a scrapyard.
A week after contacting the dealer they asked me to send the quote received from the garage to the dealer and warranty company which I did only for the warranty company to come back and send a link of a company that sells turbos for £350. I responded to this email saying that I wasn’t sure what they wanted me to do with that information (as there was nothing else included apart from name of company, address & turbo cost). I reiterated what parts needed changing per the email from the garage and noted that I had obtained two separate quotes from different garages and if the warranty company believes these are too high then they can arrange the repair at a garage of their choice.
Having researched the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and given that it has been less than 6 months since purchase I emailed the garage stating that the warranty company has refused the claim however as I am still within the 6 month period I can request the dealer to arrange for the repair of the car at their own cost and with little inconvenience to myself as possible.
The dealer responded attaching their standard terms of business stating that they had not authorised any inspection or repairs and by doing this I had breached the terms of business and the Consumer Rights Act no longer applies in this situation. They also stated that the mechanic has tampered with the vehicle without their permission. They also noted that the warranty had been provided to cover any such issues and that I should arrange for the repair of the vehicle as per the warranty company’s email. I responded to this stating that my mechanic had only diagnosed the problem and repair work had not been performed and in any case any T&C’s do not supersede the CRA 2015. Regarding the warranty I noted that the warranty does not replace my statutory rights under CRA 2015 and also included Section 19(3) and section 23(2) which states that the ‘repair or replacement’ of the goods must be done within a reasonable time, without significant inconvenience and bearing any costs in doing so and that under this law I am requesting the dealer to repair the vehicle however if they still decide not to carry out the repair then I will exercise the right to reject the vehicle and claim a full refund plus damages.
After chasing up with the dealer they said the warranty company had offered £600 to cover the cost or take the vehicle to the dealer and they will sort out the issue. I responded back saying that £600 will be insufficient to cover the cost of the repairs and in any case under CRA 2015 I require the dealer to repair the car whilst bearing any necessary costs in doing so which includes the cost of collection and return of the vehicle. Given that the dealer is 200 miles away and the car is not in a drivable state this unfortunately is not an option.
The dealer has come back saying that they are under no obligation to collect or deliver the vehicle and that the warranty company has informed them that £600 will cover the cost of repairs. I responded back reiterating that under CRA 2015 the dealer is responsible for the postage costs and that should they continue to refuse to bear the necessary costs I will exercise the right to reject the vehicle and claim a full refund plus damages through the courts. I’m yet to hear back from them but in the meantime I would like to draft and send a letter before action to email to the dealer to although I am not sure if I need one given that I have mentioned the CRA in previous correspondence?
Summary Timeline
19/09/2020 – Purchased Car
07/02/2021 – Fault came to light
08/02/2021 – Problem diagnosed by mechanic
10/02/2021 – Initial contact via phone with garage to notify them of issue
25/02/2021 – Notified that as I am within 6 months of purchase I am exercising right under CRA 2015 to ask dealer to repair the car at their cost and with little inconvenience to myself as possible.
Draft Letter
Subject: Letter Before Action
Dear Garage,
On XX/XX/XXXX I purchased and took delivery of the Make/Model (Registration: XXXX XXX) from you. On 07/02/2021 I discovered that it was not of satisfactory quality: the turbo wastegate had seized therefore causing damage to the electronic actuator.
On XX/XX/XXXX I called you to let you know about this fault over the phone and that the warranty company which was also supplied by yourselves had refused to approve the repair claim.
The Consumer Rights Act 2015 requires dealers to supply goods of satisfactory quality. However, the vehicle is clearly not of satisfactory quality, nor fit for purpose.
As noted below and in accordance with my rights bestowed by The Consumer Rights Act 2015 I require you to repair the vehicle within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to myself. I would remind you that you are required to bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so – and this includes the costs of collection and return of the repaired vehicle to me.
I note as per the offer sent via text message you have offered to repair the vehicle but have refused to take responsibility for the collection and return of the vehicle. This is in contravention of Consumer Rights Act 2015 sec 23 (2) which states that 'If the consumer requires the trader to repair or replace the goods, the trader must—
(a)do so within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to the consumer, and
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).'
If you are unable or unwilling to repair the vehicle whilst bearing any necessary costs in doing so, I am legally entitled to reject the vehicle and to receive a refund.
I look forward to receiving your written response within 14 days. If I do not hear from you in this time I may be required to initiate legal proceedings for recovery of the money plus damages without further reference to you.
Kind regards,
Would be good to get some feedback on the letter before action and any advice/feedback on where I stand with regards to getting the dealer to take responsibility for the collection, repair & delivery of the faulty vehicle.
What is the position if the dealer continues to refuse to collect/return the vehicle for repair? I seem to think based on the CRA it should be the dealer that takes responsibility but any feedback is appreciated.
I’m aware that the 6 months will be up on 19/03/2020 – If I serve the LBA now with 14 days do I need to initiate court claim before 6 months is up or serving the notice is sufficient to be within the 6 month window?
Thanks.
I wonder if you can help me.
I purchased a 6 year old used car with 90K miles on the clock from a dealer (200 miles away) in September 2020. Since then I have done about 2.5K miles on the car and have recently had a problem with loss of power (limp mode) and EML light coming on. This happened a few weeks ago (see timeline below).
I took the car to my local garage for diagnosis for which I paid £85 and they advised that the turbo had failed. The garage advised that the repair would involve a replacement turbo, turbo actuator & oil & filter change at a cost of £1,440.
As the car was supplied with a third party warranty, I provided the warranty details to the garage who then contacted the warranty company. The warranty company refused the claim – Having followed up with the warranty company they said that the turbo would not be covered.
I contacted the dealer that I purchased the car from to explain the situation who advised me that they had other customers who had experienced similar issues with the warranty company and that they would speak to the company on my behalf. The dealer advised that this may be due to the cost quoted by the garage being deemed too high and advised that I should look for a used turbo from a scrapyard.
A week after contacting the dealer they asked me to send the quote received from the garage to the dealer and warranty company which I did only for the warranty company to come back and send a link of a company that sells turbos for £350. I responded to this email saying that I wasn’t sure what they wanted me to do with that information (as there was nothing else included apart from name of company, address & turbo cost). I reiterated what parts needed changing per the email from the garage and noted that I had obtained two separate quotes from different garages and if the warranty company believes these are too high then they can arrange the repair at a garage of their choice.
Having researched the Consumer Rights Act 2015 and given that it has been less than 6 months since purchase I emailed the garage stating that the warranty company has refused the claim however as I am still within the 6 month period I can request the dealer to arrange for the repair of the car at their own cost and with little inconvenience to myself as possible.
The dealer responded attaching their standard terms of business stating that they had not authorised any inspection or repairs and by doing this I had breached the terms of business and the Consumer Rights Act no longer applies in this situation. They also stated that the mechanic has tampered with the vehicle without their permission. They also noted that the warranty had been provided to cover any such issues and that I should arrange for the repair of the vehicle as per the warranty company’s email. I responded to this stating that my mechanic had only diagnosed the problem and repair work had not been performed and in any case any T&C’s do not supersede the CRA 2015. Regarding the warranty I noted that the warranty does not replace my statutory rights under CRA 2015 and also included Section 19(3) and section 23(2) which states that the ‘repair or replacement’ of the goods must be done within a reasonable time, without significant inconvenience and bearing any costs in doing so and that under this law I am requesting the dealer to repair the vehicle however if they still decide not to carry out the repair then I will exercise the right to reject the vehicle and claim a full refund plus damages.
After chasing up with the dealer they said the warranty company had offered £600 to cover the cost or take the vehicle to the dealer and they will sort out the issue. I responded back saying that £600 will be insufficient to cover the cost of the repairs and in any case under CRA 2015 I require the dealer to repair the car whilst bearing any necessary costs in doing so which includes the cost of collection and return of the vehicle. Given that the dealer is 200 miles away and the car is not in a drivable state this unfortunately is not an option.
The dealer has come back saying that they are under no obligation to collect or deliver the vehicle and that the warranty company has informed them that £600 will cover the cost of repairs. I responded back reiterating that under CRA 2015 the dealer is responsible for the postage costs and that should they continue to refuse to bear the necessary costs I will exercise the right to reject the vehicle and claim a full refund plus damages through the courts. I’m yet to hear back from them but in the meantime I would like to draft and send a letter before action to email to the dealer to although I am not sure if I need one given that I have mentioned the CRA in previous correspondence?
Summary Timeline
19/09/2020 – Purchased Car
07/02/2021 – Fault came to light
08/02/2021 – Problem diagnosed by mechanic
10/02/2021 – Initial contact via phone with garage to notify them of issue
25/02/2021 – Notified that as I am within 6 months of purchase I am exercising right under CRA 2015 to ask dealer to repair the car at their cost and with little inconvenience to myself as possible.
Draft Letter
Subject: Letter Before Action
Dear Garage,
On XX/XX/XXXX I purchased and took delivery of the Make/Model (Registration: XXXX XXX) from you. On 07/02/2021 I discovered that it was not of satisfactory quality: the turbo wastegate had seized therefore causing damage to the electronic actuator.
On XX/XX/XXXX I called you to let you know about this fault over the phone and that the warranty company which was also supplied by yourselves had refused to approve the repair claim.
The Consumer Rights Act 2015 requires dealers to supply goods of satisfactory quality. However, the vehicle is clearly not of satisfactory quality, nor fit for purpose.
As noted below and in accordance with my rights bestowed by The Consumer Rights Act 2015 I require you to repair the vehicle within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to myself. I would remind you that you are required to bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so – and this includes the costs of collection and return of the repaired vehicle to me.
I note as per the offer sent via text message you have offered to repair the vehicle but have refused to take responsibility for the collection and return of the vehicle. This is in contravention of Consumer Rights Act 2015 sec 23 (2) which states that 'If the consumer requires the trader to repair or replace the goods, the trader must—
(a)do so within a reasonable time and without significant inconvenience to the consumer, and
(b)bear any necessary costs incurred in doing so (including in particular the cost of any labour, materials or postage).'
If you are unable or unwilling to repair the vehicle whilst bearing any necessary costs in doing so, I am legally entitled to reject the vehicle and to receive a refund.
I look forward to receiving your written response within 14 days. If I do not hear from you in this time I may be required to initiate legal proceedings for recovery of the money plus damages without further reference to you.
Kind regards,
Would be good to get some feedback on the letter before action and any advice/feedback on where I stand with regards to getting the dealer to take responsibility for the collection, repair & delivery of the faulty vehicle.
What is the position if the dealer continues to refuse to collect/return the vehicle for repair? I seem to think based on the CRA it should be the dealer that takes responsibility but any feedback is appreciated.
I’m aware that the 6 months will be up on 19/03/2020 – If I serve the LBA now with 14 days do I need to initiate court claim before 6 months is up or serving the notice is sufficient to be within the 6 month window?
Thanks.
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