Right then lets make a start.
Assignment
Some companies specialise in debt recovery and can be 'sold' your debt in order to recover it on your behalf. They may charge a fixed fee or take a percentage of the money they recover. When this occurs you will be assigning the debt.
If a debt is assigned, the Debtor must be told of the Assignment and to whom they should now pay the money.
Notice of Assignment
Other than telling the Debtor that the debt has been assigned, there are no other formalities required. This is normally covered in the Good Bye/Hello letters, that often both come form the DCA.
Types of Assignment
Agent - The DCA is acting purely as an agent for the OC and in this case has NO legal powers at all.
Legal (Equitable) Assignment - The DCA is sold the rights to collect the debt, but NOT the duties. In this case they can only take legal action with the OC's full compliance, although they often mislead people as to what this means. This can cause problems, especially with CCA requests, but isn't surmountable. This mechanism is often used for "sale or return" debts.
Absolute Assignment - The entire debt, rights and duties, is sold to the DCA under the Law of Property Act 1925 s136. In this case the DCA now has all the rights, duties and powers of the OC. For this to occur the DCA/OC must inform the debtor that the assignment has taken place in substantiated writing, basically a recorded delivery letter. As the DCA has now replaced the OC they are bound by CCA74 and all that entails.
Agents and Assignment
Well in this case there is no lawful assignment and the DCA is simply collecting the debt on behalf of the OC.
This being the case any requests that are made should be passed directly to the OC for action.
Dealing with Equitable Assignment
This is well used by DCA's especially Aktiv Kapital and Thames Credit.
Normally they will start to complain that they aren't the creditor after you have requested your agreement to ensure they do indeed have the legal right the collect the debt.
Now s77-79 refer to the "creditor", this term is defined in s189.
Same applies to s78 and s79 aswell.
Now if they are saying that they aren't the creditor as defined by the Act the you cannot possibly be the debtor
Therefore there is NO debt to pay.
Simplistic, maybe, but true none the less.
If the rights AND duties haven't passed and they are playing silly games, then this is useful.
Admittedly some DCA's have now realised that this tack isn't useful to them at all, so they are now requesting the agreement from the OC. This isn't a problem, but the normal time scales still apply. They CANNOT continue demanding payment while your request is being dealt with, no matter what they say.
Absolute Assignment and Law of Property 1925
This gives them full rights and duties to the debt and as such the replace the OC.
LoP does NOT replace the rights granted by CCA74, but merely allows for change of ownership.
Assignment and DCA's
Many DCA's try and hide the type of assignment used to acquire debts, as can be seen equitable ties their hands when it comes to legal action.
A number, mainly Cabot, like to claim assignment under LoP and yet go on to say they have the RIGHTS but not the DUTIES. Well as can be seen this is extremely misleading and also incorrect.
Any comments/questions ??
Assignment
Some companies specialise in debt recovery and can be 'sold' your debt in order to recover it on your behalf. They may charge a fixed fee or take a percentage of the money they recover. When this occurs you will be assigning the debt.
If a debt is assigned, the Debtor must be told of the Assignment and to whom they should now pay the money.
Notice of Assignment
Other than telling the Debtor that the debt has been assigned, there are no other formalities required. This is normally covered in the Good Bye/Hello letters, that often both come form the DCA.
Types of Assignment
Agent - The DCA is acting purely as an agent for the OC and in this case has NO legal powers at all.
Legal (Equitable) Assignment - The DCA is sold the rights to collect the debt, but NOT the duties. In this case they can only take legal action with the OC's full compliance, although they often mislead people as to what this means. This can cause problems, especially with CCA requests, but isn't surmountable. This mechanism is often used for "sale or return" debts.
Absolute Assignment - The entire debt, rights and duties, is sold to the DCA under the Law of Property Act 1925 s136. In this case the DCA now has all the rights, duties and powers of the OC. For this to occur the DCA/OC must inform the debtor that the assignment has taken place in substantiated writing, basically a recorded delivery letter. As the DCA has now replaced the OC they are bound by CCA74 and all that entails.
Agents and Assignment
Well in this case there is no lawful assignment and the DCA is simply collecting the debt on behalf of the OC.
This being the case any requests that are made should be passed directly to the OC for action.
Originally posted by CCA74 s175
Dealing with Equitable Assignment
This is well used by DCA's especially Aktiv Kapital and Thames Credit.
Normally they will start to complain that they aren't the creditor after you have requested your agreement to ensure they do indeed have the legal right the collect the debt.
Originally posted by CCA74 s77 (1)
Originally posted by CCA74 s189(1)
Now if they are saying that they aren't the creditor as defined by the Act the you cannot possibly be the debtor
Originally posted by CCA74 189 (1)
Simplistic, maybe, but true none the less.
If the rights AND duties haven't passed and they are playing silly games, then this is useful.
Admittedly some DCA's have now realised that this tack isn't useful to them at all, so they are now requesting the agreement from the OC. This isn't a problem, but the normal time scales still apply. They CANNOT continue demanding payment while your request is being dealt with, no matter what they say.
Absolute Assignment and Law of Property 1925
Originally posted by LoP s136
LoP does NOT replace the rights granted by CCA74, but merely allows for change of ownership.
Assignment and DCA's
Many DCA's try and hide the type of assignment used to acquire debts, as can be seen equitable ties their hands when it comes to legal action.
A number, mainly Cabot, like to claim assignment under LoP and yet go on to say they have the RIGHTS but not the DUTIES. Well as can be seen this is extremely misleading and also incorrect.
Any comments/questions ??