Ernest Wilson

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi I am trying to get some help With Ernest Wilson Rogues as they have a charging Order on my property which they obtained while I was out the country .I am still in shock as this is for 6,460 ,I had tenants in the property who they sent letters to telling them to hand over the keys and move out in 2 weeks as the property was being repossessed,My tenants moved out the property because they where scared even though I tried to tell them they cant force them out . Im at my witts end and dont know what to do, I am paying EW 100.00 a month to pay it off as i didnt want to loose my house as it had already gone to court .I just dont see how they can do this as they never sold my business never obtained any ID from myself or my Partner who`s name was on it ,They changed the contracts (two middle sheets) my signature not on it .These people need stopping as they are making fools of the law hiding behind it and making peoples lives a misery ,alone they seem to have us and wear us out but im sure a partition with enough signatures to take to parliment has to do something as they are just carrying on with what they do best destroying peoples lives

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how have you got on ?

I think we need to go back to the beginning on this Eli.

Were EW aware you were out of the country ? How long were you away for ?
When did they start the court action and obtain judgment against you ? When was the judgment ?
Did you know about this at the time and did you defend the case ?
Did you dispute the final charging order at all with the court ?

[Eli Bird]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi have you had any Luck with EW ?

[Eli Bird]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi I am trying to get some help With Ernest Wilson Rogues as they have a charging Order on my property which they obtained while I was out the country .I am still in shock as this is for 6,460 ,I had tenants in the property who they sent letters to telling them to hand over the keys and move out in 2 weeks as the property was being repossessed,My tenants moved out the property because they where scared even though I tried to tell them they cant force them out . Im at my witts end and dont know what to do, I am paying EW 100.00 a month to pay it off as i didnt want to loose my house as it had already gone to court .I just dont see how they can do this as they never sold my business never obtained any ID from myself or my Partner who`s name was on it ,They changed the contracts (two middle sheets) my signature not on it .These people need stopping as they are making fools of the law hiding behind it and making peoples lives a misery ,alone they seem to have us and wear us out but im sure a partition with enough signatures to take to parliment has to do something as they are just carrying on with what they do best destroying peoples lives

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how have you got on ?

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi there Ian

I am currently battling with Ernest Wilson on behalf of my mother and deceased Father. Simon woodhouse informed her today, he will be taking my mother to court for fees for advertising there café for sale for over 10years @ £9484.... After 10years being for sale sadly my father passed away, leaving her no option but to sell at auction for less than half the value.. Please guide me

Do you have copies of the paperwork from Ernest Wilson ?

Was the valuation of £9484 given by Ernest Wilson or independently ? How much is Ernest Wilson trying to claim from your Mother? and how much has she paid to them over the last 10 years?

[Andreawx]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Hi there Ian

I am currently battling with Ernest Wilson on behalf of my mother and deceased Father. Simon woodhouse informed her today, he will be taking my mother to court for fees for advertising there café for sale for over 10years @ £9484.... After 10years being for sale sadly my father passed away, leaving her no option but to sell at auction for less than half the value.. Please guide me

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

ahh brilliant. Thanks.


Good that the court is in agreement.

It's good to see that the court is on the side of the little guy this time, although the prevailing legal opinion seems to be, 'you signed the contract, so tough'.

[Amethyst]

Re: Ernest Wilson

ahh brilliant. Thanks.


Good that the court is in agreement.

RTA called Greta several times when her restaurant in Saltney, near Chester, was already on the market.

“I agreed to see their agent to shut him up,” said Greta.

“Although the leasehold was for sale at £35,000 he said he could sell it for £70,000.

“He didn’t look round properly or see the books, didn’t even look upstairs and their prospectus wrongly described the premises.

“As for the paper I signed, I can’t see to read a document – I thought it was just one of those cases where you sign to prove the agent has made the call.”

RTA sued Greta when she failed to pay a £1,200 registration fee, claiming £3,000 – half of the commission that the company said it would have earned if it had sold the business.

But Greta says that she never received the demand for £1,200.

Besides, RTA did not get a single prospective buyer to view her restaurant so she didn’t feel they deserved a penny.

Chester County Court dismissed RTA’s claim, ruling that the contract was *unenforceable because Greta did not know what she was signing.

District Judge Gill dismissed RTA’s claim, describing Mr Lotfi as a credible witness and ruling he was tricked into signing the contract.

“I find there was misrepresentation,” said the judge, ruling that its sales rep “induced him and persuaded him to sign this agreement on the basis that he would not be liable to pay any fees”.

But when it came to the crunch, the company withdrew its claim at Chester county court after Circuit Judge Derek Halbert warned that it was likely to lose the case because its witness, the sales rep, was not in court.

He awarded 62-year-old Elaine £190 in costs. Outside court she told how RTA had first contacted her after she put the cafe, called Poppies, in Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, on the market for £20,000.

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Andrew Penman at the Daily Mirror is on the case again with an article about RTA, a similar company to Ernest Wilson:

Business transfer agent snares shop sellers with dodgy contracts then sues

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Yet another interesting practice has come to light!

EW have settled with some clients for marketing fees on unsold businesses, then when the business has been sold later (without EW's "expertise"), they've also chased the seller for commission, claiming they introduced the buyer.

[Ian dowd]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Morning, I am alot further down the road with this matter.
So first, the 14 day cooling-off period doesn't apply.
Now for the good news, EW have been fined previous for non identical contracts. Also the contract needs to be signed by Ernest Wilson (see TPOS, instructions).
Photo ID is a must according to the money laundering regulations.
The advertising EW use is a disgrace, the client is presented with a nice A4 document with pictures, and the reality is a stamp sized advert among many others and no pictures.
Ian

[CrisUK09]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Has anyone managed to find specific cases that have gone against EW? I am helping a friend who signed two 'agreements' for her businesses but at no stage was proof of ID either requested or supplied. Additionally the Terms of Business documents left with her differed from the contracts, which had to be requested from EW. It seems to me therefore she was deprived of the opportunity to cancel within the 14 days cooling off period as she understandably thought proper contracts would be forwarded to her.

[MalcolmD]

Re: Ernest Wilson

On FOI from Manchester court, EW had more than 430 claim cases in the last 2 years

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

With thanks to a friend or two, it seems that our chums at EW are still not using the correct procedures:
Proof of ID needs to be taken and verified before anything is signed then kept for six years, otherwise the contract is, as one judge put it, "tainted with illegality".
Both copies of the contract should be identical (some versions of EW's Terms of Business have completely different page 1s for the seller and the agent) and both copies should be signed by both parties.
The advert that's presented to the client is 2 pages of A4 with photos but the actual ad is 5-6 lines of text, around an inch square (another plug: typical ad at http://ernestwilsonclients.blogspot....arges-you.html).

[EW Client]

Re: Ernest Wilson

Blatant plug alert! There's a redacted copy of the reply to the FOI request at http://ernestwilsonclients.blogspot.co.uk

[Ian dowd]

Re: Ernest Wilson

I will be happy to share information, I have been doing alot of digging round and EW is just a joke.