You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is another thing he said in a reply to me which illustrates his beliefs:

[on parking on public property] But as a consequence, peoples rights are being abused for using the space without buying a ticket. The people parking there already own the property and pay for its upkeep. To have to pay again and be told that its the law, when it clearly isn't, is not only gross negligence and fraud, but immoral and predatory."

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

GO84, you've come onto the forum expecting that the group mentality is to condemn someone who chooses to fight and appears to be successful in not paying for parking.

Actually I hoped to find people with some expertise who could tell me if there's really any truth to what he's saying (common law/bill of rights etc. means you can ignore modern legislation) I thought he was sounding like a loony* but he kept saying he's read up on it (whether he understands it all, I'm not sure)

*Oh dear, I've been a bigot again. So sorry!

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

It appears to me that you already knew the answer you were looking for

As a matter of fact I was not 100% certain that I was right, because I have not studied law. But I had massive doubts that he was able to beat the system.

I am interested in this point. Has he ever been taken to court? Has he ever attended court? If Bailiffs were sent then was there actually a civil action taken against him? Is so has he ever sent in a defence to the court over that matter? Has he ever appeared in court?

I do not know. Try watching the rest of his videos and reading all his comments on them.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I'm also new to this forum so from a totally independent point of view you asked your question, received an answer and ALSO asserted "your opinion" . It appears to me that you already knew the answer you were looking for and have joined this forum either to wind people up or to hope that someone on here will incriminate them self with a comment or comments that you intend to use for another purpose.

Just my opinion :violin:

Personally I disagree. It's a valid discussion to have in relation to whether or not the guy has a valid argument over parking fines which are given by the local council. I don't think Graham has come here to cause trouble but as I said, personally, I would ask the question on the pepipoo site because they are the experts on parking fines: http://forums.pepipoo.com/

They would have a take on this but I think his first post on there needs to simply ask the question whether this approach is really legal without the other stuff.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

If you are watching the television "live" ie if he is watching catch up television then he is not breaking the law.

Hang on, that doesn't make sense. Watching catch-up TV on iplayer is not watching it live.

But at no point does he attempt to explain that he doesn't watch actual TV channels and just watches programs on iplayer (which is totally legal, I know) but he's pretty much saying he has the right to watch television* and if they demand that he pays a TV licence he is not obliged to pay for it. That's what he seems to believe.

*NOT just watching DVDs or iplayer etc.

He sounds absolutely deluded!!

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I thought this forum might be a place where you could have a serious discussion about legal matters. Or receive a proper answer to a question. I suppose every forum has its wags who think they're much funnier than everyone does.

You have to get used to clever cloggs humour whether you like it or not. I don't always but you gotta deal with that anyway. GO84, you've come onto the forum expecting that the group mentality is to condemn someone who chooses to fight and appears to be successful in not paying for parking. You've used words like "pikey" and "nutter" and "crackpot" which are simply words that show a very closed mind and that is an issue for the nutters and crackpots on here .
let me put it this way, if you had read the most recent Moneysavingexpert email it covered the tv licence issue. http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/latesttip/


the conversation that you have posted up does not show that the guy has breached that issue.

[busytrev]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Thank you for sidetracking me off the subject and making me look worse just because you picked up on one word I used that's a bit controversial, and making this thread longer and less likely to be taken seriously by any other members who come across it. I do not appreciate your contribution to this thread and I am quite disappointed at some of the responses I've gotten that feel like an attempt to wind me up. I was here to ask a question, not just to assert my opinion.

I'm also new to this forum so from a totally independent point of view you asked your question, received an answer and ALSO asserted "your opinion" . It appears to me that you already knew the answer you were looking for and have joined this forum either to wind people up or to hope that someone on here will incriminate them self with a comment or comments that you intend to use for another purpose.

Just my opinion :violin:

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

And how do you know when it's merely a civil matter, and when it's subject to criminal legistration? Is using public car parking spaces without paying for any length of time, just a civil matter that you worm your way out of? (and I don't just mean if it's for 1 minute or there's some mitigating circumstance)

I am interested in this point. Has he ever been taken to court? Has he ever attended court? If Bailiffs were sent then was there actually a civil action taken against him? Is so has he ever sent in a defence to the court over that matter? Has he ever appeared in court?

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

He is breaking the law, isn't he? But he's deluding himself into thinking it's an unlawful law.

I have joined the conversation late but from the conversation you have put up then he is 100% correct. If you are watching the television "live" ie if he is watching catch up television then he is not breaking the law. If he watches DVD's he is not breaking the law. If he is watching BBC news and he is watching it as it is being broadcast then he is in breach of the law. If he is watching Eastenders at the scheduled time then he is breaking the law. If he is watching it on BBC Iplayer after it has been broadcast then he is not breaking the law.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I thought this forum might be a place where you could have a serious discussion about legal matters. Or receive a proper answer to a question. I suppose every forum has its wags who think they're much funnier than everyone does.

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The refunds desk is over there ---->

I do hope this helps.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Thank you for sidetracking me off the subject and making me look worse just because you picked up on one word I used that's a bit controversial, and making this thread longer and less likely to be taken seriously by any other members who come across it. I do not appreciate your contribution to this thread and I am quite disappointed at some of the responses I've gotten that feel like an attempt to wind me up. I was here to ask a question, not just to assert my opinion.

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

They consider it an ethnic slur but not everyone else does.

I certainly believe it to be an ethnic slur and do not believe it is wholly impossible that you may be prejudiced.

Unfortunately for you, there is no law in the UK against posting drivel on YouTube, nor is there any requirement for him to heed your "Pay up!" comments if he chooses to ignore or block them.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

My answer: When most people say "pikey" they are not referring to a whole ethnic group, they are referring soley to a particular subculture of people - so-called "travellers" who are disliked by many because they don't participate properly in society (squatting on public land, not paying tax etc)

They consider it an ethnic slur but not everyone else does.

I don't think he is actually one of these people, but his attitude that he doesn't have to pay charges the rest of us willingly do for using certain services is not entirely unlike theirs.

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I've put you on ignore.

Ha!

You like to proclaim what you perceive as faults in others yet, when someone asks you a question, you won't answer.