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  • #76
    Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

    Hi Skally

    I just spoke to the ICO press team. The guy I spoke to agreed that this was a very serious case and was going to investigate straightaway why it hadn't been 'jumped on'.

    I explained that we were following the case closely on LB and would like to see the ICO respond proactively to this breach. He agreed that would be the best response.

    They should hopefully contact you quickly now. I need your real name and contact details because the ICO are calling me back too, so send me a PM and we can take it from there.

    x
    "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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    • #77
      Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

      With respect, Celestine, I'm cautious about giving my real contact details to anyone I don't know. I hope you understand that it's nothing personal, and I really appreciate your guidance and involvement in this whole thing.

      That said, I DID get a call back on Friday afternoon! After a few minutes of apology for their delay getting back to me (something to do with your call, Celestine?!!), I was asked about the info I had found, specifically if I'd disclosed any details to anyone. Apart from the three family members I was with when I found the letters, I said I'd pm-ed one person with the name of the company on the letterhead & told them about this forum, explaining that I'd only asked general advice about what to do without disclosing specific details..
      They asked me to e-mail them the link (which I have) & thanked me for (amongst other things) not phoning the press first, and said someone will phone me on Wednesday to arrange picking up the letters!

      Again, thank you ALL for your help. I really didn't know where to turn at first, so a hat-tip to Google for leading me to your forum!

      Luv Skally x

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      • #78
        Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

        Hi Skally

        This is a terrible lapse on someones part.
        Can you say who is collecting the letters, is it the ICO or the people that lost them.

        DB

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        • #79
          Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

          Originally posted by Skally View Post
          With respect, Celestine, I'm cautious about giving my real contact details to anyone I don't know. I hope you understand that it's nothing personal, and I really appreciate your guidance and involvement in this whole thing.

          That said, I DID get a call back on Friday afternoon! After a few minutes of apology for their delay getting back to me (something to do with your call, Celestine?!!), I was asked about the info I had found, specifically if I'd disclosed any details to anyone. Apart from the three family members I was with when I found the letters, I said I'd pm-ed one person with the name of the company on the letterhead & told them about this forum, explaining that I'd only asked general advice about what to do without disclosing specific details..
          They asked me to e-mail them the link (which I have) & thanked me for (amongst other things) not phoning the press first, x
          Yes i can imagine

          DB

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          • #80
            Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

            Originally posted by Skally View Post
            Should I say who it is in a public forum? Surely that alone tips them off and I want the first they know about it to be this ICO Swat Team! Kx
            Unfortunately the ICO is not a prosecuting agency. They may suspend or cancel the offender's licence depending on the seriousness that they view this incident. But, sadly, there is no SWAT team.

            Once the facts are established you could further our case against the bailiffs by publicising this matter. Do not deal with bailiffs because they make identity fraud easy! What a great headline.

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            • #81
              Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

              LOL, Yes ICO SWAT, with helicopters and M16s. That would be the day.

              I think the ICO do prosecute, but not in cases like this , unless they have no option.

              From reading the post it sounds like the ICO have just recommended that Skally return the items to the Bailiff.

              So sadly that will be the end of that. Par for the course i suppose.

              Shame
              Last edited by davyb; 10th June 2012, 08:07:AM.

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              • #82
                Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                No that is incorrect.

                I am in communication with the ICO Press Office and Enforcement Dept.
                They are taking this very seriously and I am hopeful of a painful result for the bailiff's involved.
                "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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                • #83
                  Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                  Originally posted by Celestine View Post
                  No that is incorrect.

                  I am in communication with the ICO Press Office and Enforcement Dept.
                  They are taking this very seriously and I am hopeful of a painful result for the bailiff's involved.
                  That would be excellent if it happens, i have been down this road before with the ICO, still it would be nice to be wrong.

                  Will we see details on here at some point?

                  DB

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                  • #84
                    Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                    Only if Skally wishes to share the outcome of the case. But it's nice to know that we can influence the dynamic positively.
                    "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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                    • #85
                      Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                      Originally posted by Celestine View Post
                      Only if Skally wishes to share the outcome of the case. But it's nice to know that we can influence the dynamic positively.
                      Hmm
                      I would have thought that if it was going through the press office it would be in the public domain.

                      Like this

                      http://www.ico.gov.uk/news/latest_ne...-16052012.aspx

                      Did the ICO retain the evidence.

                      DB

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                      • #86
                        Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                        I would have thought it won't go through the press office until they have fully investigated and then drawn a conclusion to their findings....they will likely blow their trumpet when successful.

                        Pepsie

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                        • #87
                          Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                          Originally posted by pepsie View Post
                          I would have thought it won't go through the press office until they have fully investigated and then drawn a conclusion to their findings....they will likely blow their trumpet when successful.

                          Pepsie
                          Yes i suppose so, then the resultant findings would be in the public domain.

                          Which is how it should be, if you think about it the injured parties are the people whose details are on those receipts and by extrapolation the general public.

                          Disclosure should not be a matter for the person who reported the offense.

                          DB

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                          • #88
                            Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                            Sorry for my delay in updating you all (pesky real life commitments!), but I want to reassure you that the paperwork IS in the hands of the ICO and not the bailiff or the company he works for.

                            And I think the ICO SWAT team should exist!!

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                            • #89
                              Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                              you and me both hun!

                              How funny would that be? It'd be like something out of the Sweeny, your NICKED son!
                              I now have a vision of Andy McNabb with ICO on his back..
                              We are here GO GO GO GO!!

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                              • #90
                                Re: I've found paperwork dumped by a bailiff!

                                So is it a mater of waiting to see what, if anything appears in the press?

                                Or did they say they would keep you informed of any case they may bring.

                                D

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