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  • #16
    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan View Post
    Completely agree EXC and their underhand activities should be exposed for what they are, but the blog has been rumbling on for over 12 months so why not file a complaint with the HM Courts & Tribunal Services or contact an MP 12 months ago? If what BEHINDPBS is saying is true they’d have been found guilty and the ripple effect would have been astronomical for them, potentially ground breaking in the sector.
    Again I can't answer for BEHINDPBS but I doubt PBS would let the possibility of an adverse judgement get that far. Most people wouldn't want the risk of going to court and the chances of your MP doing something meaningful are pretty remote.


    Meanwhile if you read the MEN they’re showing off that they’ve just made £260 million in the past 12 months!
    They are anoyingly successful. I watched an interview with Peter Dunn who said that the key to Peninsula's success is customer retention ie they hard sell a customer into signing a 5 year contract and go to the ends of the earth to prevent cancellation/non-renewal. They even have a customer retention department.

    Their former Head of Employment Services is on record saying:

    The strength of the field operation lay in the face to face contact between the consultants and our clients. I introduced a system that would also take advantage of this contact to generate new sales. By January 2006 the income from new business generated by this department was greater than the costs associated with it.

    Because of this involvement I was asked to develop an online service to attract new clients and make it harder for existing clients to cancel their contracts with Peninsula.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
      just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?
      They only asked us for contact details. The only person we know who was asked for a face to face meeting was one of our followers over on twitter.

      Anything they could say face to face, they could just as easily say on the blog - except the blog would be a documented record. With what we know of them now, they wouldnt want any conversation about this documented, and anything they say verbally can be denied or twisted by them.

      Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
      If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?
      The legal system was tried and failed; a court too willing to believe unsupported arguments from a large company. Claimant had no wish to go down that road again.

      Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
      What sort of views are you getting?
      Good, but not as much as we'd like. It is steadily growing week by week with views from all over the globe. People are showing interest.

      Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
      whats the end goal?
      When we started the blog our goal was to simply get the information out there and into the public domain. Now its out there, we aim to keep it out there.


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      • #18
        The Supreme Court recently stated that a judgment could be set aside on the grounds it was obtained by fraud (it wasn't in relation to an ET, but a judgment obtained by fraud is still a judgment obtained by fraud whichever Court it was in). If you manage to get a judgment set aside on those grounds, what happens next? Does the case get a new hearing? Are there any consequences for the side that committed the fraud?

        We have all the evidence needed to show a judgment was obtained by fraud, but pointless starting anything if it's going to end nowhere.

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        • #19
          I don't know about the consequences for any fraud but when a judgment is set aside it goes back to the point that the claim was first issued.

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          • #20
            Thanks. Once in court, getting the judgment set aside will be the easy part; getting the issue before a court will be more of a challenge though.

            Will look into it some more before suggesting this course of action to claimant.

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            • #21
              Off topic but we find it strange that WhiteVanMan was so interested in what we have been saying that he went over to the blog and read it all - which in itself is a feat, then came back here and signed up, then asked us a couple questions about it - the one about site views had nothing to do with the actual case, then he vanished without another word! Thats the kind of thing people do when they are digging for specific information but dont want anyone to know who they really are!!!

              Wonder if it was actually someone working for........you know who?!

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              • #22
                Unlikely but I'll tag WhiteVanMan so he can answer your concerns himself.
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                • #23
                  Wow someone takes a genuine interest in a blog and now is being accused of being a mole!? I’m sorry for not playing up to your apparent over inflated ego and “going quiet” Maybe your paranoia evidenced here is a theme and your blog is just paranoia and conspiracy theory that’s why you’ve done nothing with it?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan View Post
                    Wow someone takes a genuine interest in a blog and now is being accused of being a mole!? I’m sorry for not playing up to your apparent over inflated ego and “going quiet” Maybe your paranoia evidenced here is a theme and your blog is just paranoia and conspiracy theory that’s why you’ve done nothing with it?
                    The question was based on previous experiences of people. And it was a question, not an accusation. Apologies if the question offended you, it was not the intention. Now youve clarified the issue, we can move on.

                    The blog could be seen as paranoia and conspiracy, except it contains sections from communications written by Peninsula, which they have confirmed are genuine. Those sections show that Peninsula approved breaches to employment law, and then went on to mislead an Employment Tribunal.

                    We've done nothing with the information because the Claimant in question had lost all faith in the legal system, not because of Peninsula, but because the judge at his tribunal was so willing to believe everything Peninsula said even when there was documented evidence to the contrary (the judge twisted such evidence to favour respondent. but that is another story).

                    To do anything with the information we now have would cost money, something the Claimant doesnt have much of. Hopefully he will soon be in a position to put his case before a court to have the decision set aside on the grounds it was obtained by fraud - all the evidence of fraud is now available, it just needs to get in front of a judge.

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