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Can your online reputation be bleached?

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    Can your online reputation be bleached?

    By Kate Holdsworth BBC Radio 4, You and Yours Legislation that protects websites from lawsuits is cleansing negative comments from online forums, BBC Radio 4’s You and Yours has been told. Companies that threaten Section 5 defamation notices say they are a legitimate defence against false statements. But one forum…
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  • BehindPBS
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    Thanks. Once in court, getting the judgment set aside will be the easy part; getting the issue before a court will be more of a challenge though.

    Will look into it some more before suggesting this course of action to claimant.

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  • EXC
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    I don't know about the consequences for any fraud but when a judgment is set aside it goes back to the point that the claim was first issued.

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  • BehindPBS
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    The Supreme Court recently stated that a judgment could be set aside on the grounds it was obtained by fraud (it wasn't in relation to an ET, but a judgment obtained by fraud is still a judgment obtained by fraud whichever Court it was in). If you manage to get a judgment set aside on those grounds, what happens next? Does the case get a new hearing? Are there any consequences for the side that committed the fraud?

    We have all the evidence needed to show a judgment was obtained by fraud, but pointless starting anything if it's going to end nowhere.

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  • BehindPBS
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    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
    just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?
    They only asked us for contact details. The only person we know who was asked for a face to face meeting was one of our followers over on twitter.

    Anything they could say face to face, they could just as easily say on the blog - except the blog would be a documented record. With what we know of them now, they wouldnt want any conversation about this documented, and anything they say verbally can be denied or twisted by them.

    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
    If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?
    The legal system was tried and failed; a court too willing to believe unsupported arguments from a large company. Claimant had no wish to go down that road again.

    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
    What sort of views are you getting?
    Good, but not as much as we'd like. It is steadily growing week by week with views from all over the globe. People are showing interest.

    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan
    whats the end goal?
    When we started the blog our goal was to simply get the information out there and into the public domain. Now its out there, we aim to keep it out there.


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  • EXC
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    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan View Post
    Completely agree EXC and their underhand activities should be exposed for what they are, but the blog has been rumbling on for over 12 months so why not file a complaint with the HM Courts & Tribunal Services or contact an MP 12 months ago? If what BEHINDPBS is saying is true they’d have been found guilty and the ripple effect would have been astronomical for them, potentially ground breaking in the sector.
    Again I can't answer for BEHINDPBS but I doubt PBS would let the possibility of an adverse judgement get that far. Most people wouldn't want the risk of going to court and the chances of your MP doing something meaningful are pretty remote.


    Meanwhile if you read the MEN they’re showing off that they’ve just made £260 million in the past 12 months!
    They are anoyingly successful. I watched an interview with Peter Dunn who said that the key to Peninsula's success is customer retention ie they hard sell a customer into signing a 5 year contract and go to the ends of the earth to prevent cancellation/non-renewal. They even have a customer retention department.

    Their former Head of Employment Services is on record saying:

    The strength of the field operation lay in the face to face contact between the consultants and our clients. I introduced a system that would also take advantage of this contact to generate new sales. By January 2006 the income from new business generated by this department was greater than the costs associated with it.

    Because of this involvement I was asked to develop an online service to attract new clients and make it harder for existing clients to cancel their contracts with Peninsula.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kieron-h...alSubdomain=uk




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  • WhiteVanMan
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    Completely agree EXC and their underhand activities should be exposed for what they are, but the blog has been rumbling on for over 12 months so why not file a complaint with the HM Courts & Tribunal Services or contact an MP 12 months ago? If what BEHINDPBS is saying is true they’d have been found guilty and the ripple effect would have been astronomical for them, potentially ground breaking in the sector.

    Meanwhile if you read the MEN they’re showing off that they’ve just made £260 million in the past 12 months!

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  • EXC
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    Originally posted by WhiteVanMan View Post
    Just been reading the Blog BehindPBS just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?

    If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?

    What sort of views are you getting?

    whats the end goal?

    ive had experiences (not first hand) of them and their reputation is cloudy to day the least.
    I can't answer for BEHINDPBS but I think the blog serves the greater good in publicity terms. We've certainly tried in the past. Not sure if you've read this? https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...sula-complaint

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  • WhiteVanMan
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    Just been reading the Blog BehindPBS just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?

    If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?

    What sort of views are you getting?

    whats the end goal?

    ive had experiences (not first hand) of them and their reputation is cloudy to day the least.

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  • BehindPBS
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    They recently contacted the blog for a 'discussion' with us, but now they wont say a word!

    To be fair, there is nothing they can say to justify their actions, but it would have been interesting to see what excuses they came up with!!

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  • BehindPBS
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    They made a threat to start legal proceedings almost 12 months ago but never followed it up with any action!!!

    Says it all really!!!

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  • BehindPBS
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    I await my Section 5 letter for the following blog!

    http://behindpeninsula.blogspot.com

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  • Kati
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    Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

    Originally posted by EXC View Post
    Here's some bedtime reading for you @Kati lol.
    after the Christmas prezzie my local shopkeeper gave me, it might take me a couple of days (1L of JD lol) xx

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  • EXC
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    Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

    Here's some bedtime reading for you [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] lol.

    This is the best summary I know of about why section 5 was enacted, what it does and and how it (should) work.

    https://publications.parliament.uk/p...13111956000130

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  • EXC
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    Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

    Originally posted by Kati View Post
    is section 5 only for website/forum owners?? is there the same protections for individuals??
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...tion/5/enacted

    Section 5 sets out the procedures for user generated content on 3rd party websites and the obligations of all 3 parties ie poster, website and complainant.

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