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  • Can your online reputation be bleached?

    By Kate Holdsworth BBC Radio 4, You and Yours Legislation that protects websites from lawsuits is cleansing negative comments from online forums, BBC Radio 4’s You and Yours has been told. Companies that threaten Section 5 defamation notices say they are a legitimate defence against false statements. But one forum…
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    Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

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    • #3
      Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

      The Radio 4 You & Yours piece starts at 16:00.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09jbsmh

      Many thanks to Sophia for her excellent contribution.

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      • #4
        Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

        I listened to that. Excellent talk from Kate but the response is shocking. I do hope the habit doesn't spread, it could kill consumer websites and honest reviews.
        Last edited by seduraed; 22nd December 2017, 18:08:PM. Reason: Spelling

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        • #5
          Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

          Originally posted by seduraed View Post
          I do hope the habit doesn't spread, it could kill consumer websites and honest reviews.
          That's exactly why we were keen to publicise the issue. Section 5 of the Defamation Act 2013 (operators of websites) was well meaning in that if we follow the procedures it does give us more protection than before but section 5 notices are too easily abused by those that want to used them as crude tools for reputation mangement and in circumstances when it's patently clear that the complainant has no grounds or intention of issuing a claim in defamation.

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            Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

            Originally posted by EXC View Post
            That's exactly why we were keen to publicise the issue. Section 5 of the Defamation Act 2013 (operators of websites) was well meaning in that if we follow the procedures it does give us more protection than before but section 5 notices are too easily abused by those that want to used them as crude tools for reputation mangement and in circumstances when it's patently clear that the complainant has no grounds or intention of issuing a claim in defamation.
            is section 5 only for website/forum owners?? is there the same protections for individuals??
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              Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

              Originally posted by Kati View Post
              is section 5 only for website/forum owners?? is there the same protections for individuals??
              http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/...tion/5/enacted

              Section 5 sets out the procedures for user generated content on 3rd party websites and the obligations of all 3 parties ie poster, website and complainant.

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                Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

                Here's some bedtime reading for you [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] lol.

                This is the best summary I know of about why section 5 was enacted, what it does and and how it (should) work.

                https://publications.parliament.uk/p...13111956000130

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                  Re: Can your online reputation be bleached?

                  Originally posted by EXC View Post
                  Here's some bedtime reading for you @Kati lol.
                  after the Christmas prezzie my local shopkeeper gave me, it might take me a couple of days (1L of JD lol) xx
                  Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

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                  • #10
                    I await my Section 5 letter for the following blog!

                    http://behindpeninsula.blogspot.com

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                    • #11
                      They made a threat to start legal proceedings almost 12 months ago but never followed it up with any action!!!

                      Says it all really!!!

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                      • #12
                        They recently contacted the blog for a 'discussion' with us, but now they wont say a word!

                        To be fair, there is nothing they can say to justify their actions, but it would have been interesting to see what excuses they came up with!!

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                        • #13
                          Just been reading the Blog BehindPBS just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?

                          If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?

                          What sort of views are you getting?

                          whats the end goal?

                          ive had experiences (not first hand) of them and their reputation is cloudy to day the least.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WhiteVanMan View Post
                            Just been reading the Blog BehindPBS just curious why you didn’t take them up on the offer and meet face 2 face?

                            If you have all the evidence why write a blog about it, why not go to the tribunal board or escalate your complaint/case higher to expose their deception?

                            What sort of views are you getting?

                            whats the end goal?

                            ive had experiences (not first hand) of them and their reputation is cloudy to day the least.
                            I can't answer for BEHINDPBS but I think the blog serves the greater good in publicity terms. We've certainly tried in the past. Not sure if you've read this? https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...sula-complaint

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                            I keep it with your letter
                            Done up in blueprint blue
                            It sure looks good on you
                            And when you smile for the camera
                            I know I'll love you better

                            Then the shutter falls
                            You see it all in 3-D
                            It's your favorite foreign movie

                            'Peg'

                            Donald Jay Fagen

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                            • #15
                              Completely agree EXC and their underhand activities should be exposed for what they are, but the blog has been rumbling on for over 12 months so why not file a complaint with the HM Courts & Tribunal Services or contact an MP 12 months ago? If what BEHINDPBS is saying is true they’d have been found guilty and the ripple effect would have been astronomical for them, potentially ground breaking in the sector.

                              Meanwhile if you read the MEN they’re showing off that they’ve just made £260 million in the past 12 months!

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