Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I received a fine for this same offence about two years ago. I wrote a letter to DVLA saying I had notified them, asking them to look back through my history of car ownership to see if I'd ever failed to notify them - they waived the fine.

It is a very common occurrence and I'm sure you'd have challenged it appropriately in a timely fashion had you had the chance.

Sounds like a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand's doing, where DVLA are concerned, LM. Trouble is, it's getting a bit too much of a regular occurrence. I am aware that, back along, one magistrates court allocated an entire morning's court time for set aside hearings for dodgy DVLA convictions where the first defendants knew about it was when Marstons got involved.

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Sounds like a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand's doing, where DVLA are concerned, LM. Trouble is, it's getting a bit too much of a regular occurrence. I am aware that, back along, one magistrates court allocated an entire morning's court time for set aside hearings for dodgy DVLA convictions where the first defendants knew about it was when Marstons got involved.

Where was that?

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Where was that?

It was last year and it was either Reading or Plymouth. It wouldn't surprise me if a morning taken up with set asides due to DVLA's bungling is a regular occurrence up and down the country.

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Did the Approved Treatment Facility (ATF) issue you with a Certificate of Destruction for the car you scrapped?

If you haven't go to the place and ask for a copy. Obviously offer to pay for their costs.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

BBC Watchdoh have had their eye on DVLA recarding their SORN sc*m, http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/cons...dvla-dock.html

@ BB "Sounds like a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand's doing, where DVLA are concerned, LM. Trouble is, it's getting a bit too much of a regular occurrence. I am aware that, back along, one magistrates court allocated an entire morning's court time for set aside hearings for dodgy DVLA convictions where the first defendants knew about it was when Marstons got involved. "

One would think that DVLA lose post as a matter of course to enable this travesty of kangaroo fines, Op should ask for the case to be reopened, and te fine quoshed, as per here:

http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?10714-DVLA-SORN-notification-system-is-a-shambles-legally-unenforceable-and-administ quoted below:


"I have been contacted, by 2 people (two) who have wone there case against the DVLA by refering my claim number to the Judge.

Claim No: 9BR0829

Court: Horsham county court

Date: 30 March 2010

Reason: No statutary power to require anyone to contact them if they do not receive a receipt."

Result: Win

We have over 240 complaints so far & I ask everyone who has issues to post a complaint on the Official watchdog Forum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/..._the_dock

And at the Register an IT techy site: www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/03/dvla_court/

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

If you haven't go to the place and ask for a copy. Obviously offer to pay for their costs.

When you take an End of Life Vehicle (ELV) to an ATF or a Licensed Vehicle Dismantler (LVD) collects it, they will provide you with a Certificate of Destruction (CoD). All ATFs and LVDs are linked, electronically, to DVLA who are informed immediately the ATF or LVD inputs the vehicle details and sends them. I would think the OP could obtain a copy from the ATF at minimal cost or, possibly, without charge.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

BBC Watchdoh have had their eye on DVLA recarding their SORN sc*m, http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/cons...dvla-dock.html

@ BB "Sounds like a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand's doing, where DVLA are concerned, LM. Trouble is, it's getting a bit too much of a regular occurrence. I am aware that, back along, one magistrates court allocated an entire morning's court time for set aside hearings for dodgy DVLA convictions where the first defendants knew about it was when Marstons got involved. "

One would think that DVLA lose post as a matter of course to enable this travesty of kangaroo fines, Op should ask for the case to be reopened, and te fine quoshed, as per here:

http://www.rac.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?10714-DVLA-SORN-notification-system-is-a-shambles-legally-unenforceable-and-administ quoted below:


"I have been contacted, by 2 people (two) who have wone there case against the DVLA by refering my claim number to the Judge.

Claim No: 9BR0829

Court: Horsham county court

Date: 30 March 2010

Reason: No statutary power to require anyone to contact them if they do not receive a receipt."

Result: Win

We have over 240 complaints so far & I ask everyone who has issues to post a complaint on the Official watchdog Forum
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/..._the_dock

And at the Register an IT techy site: www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/03/dvla_court/

Simon Tse, CEO of DVLA, is an oaf and should be sacked. It was a similar situation when he was MD of Virgin Media - chaotic - with customers being pursued for debts they were not liable to pay and contracts being cancelled by Virgin Media, who then tried to bully people into paying a full year's contract charges when the law clearly stated Virgin Media was in the wrong and not entitled to a penny.

Sack Tse and the other oafs under him and DVLA might go back to be somewhat more organised and less incompetent.

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

When you take an End of Life Vehicle (ELV) to an ATF or a Licensed Vehicle Dismantler (LVD) collects it, they will provide you with a Certificate of Destruction (CoD). All ATFs and LVDs are linked, electronically, to DVLA who are informed immediately the ATF or LVD inputs the vehicle details and sends them. I would think the OP could obtain a copy from the ATF at minimal cost or, possibly, without charge.

I know. Sadly not all do it while you're there, and not all are noted for their honesty. If it was done and a copy given, then either way would work - it gives the OP more options. If they didn't get one, then going back, even for a copy of the receipt provides a way forward.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Simon Tse, CEO of DVLA, is an oaf and should be sacked. It was a similar situation when he was MD of Virgin Media - chaotic - with customers being pursued for debts they were not liable to pay and contracts being cancelled by Virgin Media, who then tried to bully people into paying a full year's contract charges when the law clearly stated Virgin Media was in the wrong and not entitled to a penny.

Sack Tse and the other oafs under him and DVLA might go back to be somewhat more organised and less incompetent.

When you get a Tse and a Tse together would they be a TseTse Fly?

[charitynjw]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

When you get a Tse and a Tse together would they be a TseTse Fly?

Shall I get your coat for you?

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Shall I get your coat for you?

No it's too hot for a coat, so an Electric bug racquet from Maplin, would be good, they are great for playing Fly Tennis, as in zap the fly.

No seriously, Op should look at formal complaints to DVLA, once sorted, and complain to BBC Watchdog as they (DVLA) are guilty of prosecuting innocents for their own muppetry.

[mike22861]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

on the point of the ELV yes I have the COD from the ATF dont you love acronysms the ATF confirmed all paperwork was sent to DVLA so Ive copied the COD and sent it off.

On to the Collectica matter unsurprisingly Collectica did not turn up at my address with locksmith and police between 7am and 1pm as promised and underlined or should i say if they did they havent left any paperwork.

I will file the statutory declaration on monday and await results

[charitynjw]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

on the point of the ELV yes I have the COD from the ATF dont you love acronysms the ATF confirmed all paperwork was sent to DVLA so Ive copied the COD and sent it off.

Alphabet soup, or what, lol!

I'd escalate it up to MI5, MI6, GCHQ, FBI, CIA & NSA

(they probably 'know' all about it already :spy

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I know. Sadly not all do it while you're there, and not all are noted for their honesty. If it was done and a copy given, then either way would work - it gives the OP more options. If they didn't get one, then going back, even for a copy of the receipt provides a way forward.

You have exposed and highlighted an anomaly in the system, LM.

What I have posted is what should happen.

There are a number of databases you can access using the text facility on a mobile phone for around £4.50 per vehicle. I used one of these when they was a query about a vehicle I once owned. I got the date the vehicle was scrapped, checked with the ATP to confirm, as a garage had agreed to dispose of the vehicle, checked with the garage, whose verbal statement concurred with what the ATP had said, then contacted DVLA, who backed down very quickly when I detailed the trail to them. They don't expect peeps to check and it upsets the poor lambs who feel they are being harassed. In the words of Jim Royle, "Harassed, my arse."

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Shall I get your coat for you?

I understand, in Simon Tse's case, Tse is pronounced "chair", Charity.

So, if you see him eating in the canteen, he's Dining Tse. If someone puts him flat on his arse, he's Decked Tse. If he's standing on something, he's High Tse. :biggrin1: