Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Thank you for that, Cloggy. However, from what the OP has said, it sounds like Jacobs were involved in HMCTS enforcement.

That's how I read it also, if that is indeed the case, the court area manager needs to be asked WTF is going on, as it is extremely naughty.

As to Lord Denning, his judgments brightened the day for law students bogged down with boring cases to read, his being more akin to a story unfolding. Shame he didn't live to see this iniquitous medieval industry of torture killed off, and we are still stuck with it.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

That's how I read it also, if that is indeed the case, the court area manager needs to be asked WTF is going on, as it is extremely naughty.

As to Lord Denning, his judgments brightened the day for law students bogged down with boring cases to read, his being more akin to a story unfolding. Shame he didn't live to see this iniquitous medieval industry of torture killed off, and we are still stuck with it.

Lord Denning was a very wise judge. He upset the Establishment on a number of occasions and he wasn't afraid to upset them, especially if it was necessary to put the Establishment back in its box or tell them to wind their neck in.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Lord Denning was a very wise judge. He upset the Establishment on a number of occasions and he wasn't afraid to upset them, especially if it was necessary to put the Establishment back in its box or tell them to wind their neck in.

That's why the establishment bent over backwards to overrule and discredit some of his more common sense rulings, after his departure

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

That's why the establishment bent over backwards to overrule and discredit some of his more common sense rulings, after his departure

I noticed the barstewards did that.

[Galahad]

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I'm confused.Why in the hell did you pay the fines? Dvla didn't have a leg to stand on in the first place. You posted the V5's into a poet box, that's it, that is your responsibility fulfilled.You need to get a solicitor involved to get your money back. Its laughable you paid the fines, its bordering on madness that you might have to pay an additional £300 fine which is only likely to go up.As for the dvla issuing a sworn reminder over a car scrapped with a COD in place.....wt actual f?????A COD is issued from DVLA SYSTEMS, there should be no problem with this.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Problem is by paying the fine guilt has been admitted, mind you is there mileage in appealing?

[bluebottle]

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Problem is by paying the fine guilt has been admitted, mind you is there mileage in appealing?

I feel all is not lost, BB. It may need the OP to refer the matter up to a higher level within HMCTS and Collectica now need to be investigated as a matter of urgency. A Statutory Declaration should have been sworn and the alleged conviction set aside. However, I agree with Galahad that it would be best to involve a solicitor in order to sort out this mess.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I feel all is not lost, BB. It may need the OP to refer the matter up to a higher level within HMCTS and Collectica now need to be investigated as a matter of urgency. A Statutory Declaration should have been sworn and the alleged conviction set aside. However, I agree with Galahad that it would be best to involve a solicitor in order to sort out this mess.

About time DVLA and their concocted cock-up fines were discredited and innocents caught up refunded, as they had no legal requirement to contact DVLA so were never guilty in the first place. DVLA and bailiffs have made thousands from these dodgy fines.

[bluebottle]

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About time DVLA and their concocted cock-up fines were discredited and innocents caught up refunded, as they had no legal requirement to contact DVLA so were never guilty in the first place. DVLA and bailiffs have made thousands from these dodgy fines.

It's strange, BB, but when legal professionals get involved in a case where private-sector bailiffs have gone blundering in, matters get resolved very quickly. I would not be surprised if the OP instructed a legal professional to tackle DVLA and Simon Tse choked on his tea and biscuits when the letter landed on his desk. ELV Treatment Facilities are electronically-linked to DVLA and a motorist bringing an End of Life Vehicle to such a facility is issued with an official Certificate of Destruction before they leave the facility.

It sounds very much that DVLA has seriously cocked-up and HMCTS have proceeded on what may well prove to be a No Case. However, I have to say that HMCTS may not be entirely to blame in this matter. If blame is to be apportioned, then it should be placed fairly and squarely on DVLA who should be forced to reimburse the OP as well as pay their legal costs, not to mention having the faux conviction quashed.

For HMCTS's part, they do need to be a lot more circumspect when they receive cases from DVLA, given the number of cases they have had to have set aside due to evidence showing that DVLA had no grounds in law for bringing a case in the first place.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

It's strange, BB, but when legal professionals get involved in a case where private-sector bailiffs have gone blundering in, matters get resolved very quickly. I would not be surprised if the OP instructed a legal professional to tackle DVLA and Simon Tse choked on his tea and biscuits when the letter landed on his desk. ELV Treatment Facilities are electronically-linked to DVLA and a motorist bringing an End of Life Vehicle to such a facility is issued with an official Certificate of Destruction before they leave the facility.

It sounds very much that DVLA has seriously cocked-up and HMCTS have proceeded on what may well prove to be a No Case. However, I have to say that HMCTS may not be entirely to blame in this matter. If blame is to be apportioned, then it should be placed fairly and squarely on DVLA who should be forced to reimburse the OP as well as pay their legal costs, not to mention having the faux conviction quashed.

For HMCTS's part, they do need to be a lot more circumspect when they receive cases from DVLA, given the number of cases they have had to have set aside due to evidence showing that DVLA had no grounds in law for bringing a case in the first place.

HMCS are really the fall guy here as they prosecute the non offence for DVLA, and send the sharks from marstons to collect for them

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

HMCS are really the fall guy here as they prosecute the non offence for DVLA, and send the sharks from marstons to collect for them

I would agree with that, BB. However, this is becoming too much of a regular occurrence where DVLA is concerned. Serious questions need to be asked as to whether Simon Tse and other senior managers at DVLA should be sacked and a forensic audit carried out to find out to what extent motorists have been wrongfully-convicted and how much money DVLA has made out of such bungling incompetence. Those responsible need to be called to account and, if necessary, made to face the music.

[bizzybob]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I would agree with that, BB. However, this is becoming too much of a regular occurrence where DVLA is concerned. Serious questions need to be asked as to whether Simon Tse and other senior managers at DVLA should be sacked and a forensic audit carried out to find out to what extent motorists have been wrongfully-convicted and how much money DVLA has made out of such bungling incompetence. Those responsible need to be called to account and, if necessary, made to face the music.

As it is a quango, and ostensibly a government function they will sweep it under the carpet and use a public interest excuse as in undermining public confidence if the extent of the problem gets out.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

As it is a quango, and ostensibly a government function they will sweep it under the carpet and use a public interest excuse as in undermining public confidence if the extent of the problem gets out.

DVLA is an executive agency of the Department for Transport and, and such, is fully-amenable to the terms and provisions of the Human Rights Act. Article 6 deals with the right to a fair hearing and to have affairs dealt with by the state in a timely manner. They are also amenable to the Freedom of Information Act. Sooner or later, something is going to happen that will force an investigation into the way DVLA is being run and its total disregard for the rule of law and its compliance or, more accurately, non-compliance with the law.

[bizzybob]

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sooner the better BB as you can do everything right, and DVLA will still chase you on a whim if THEY lose the paperwork. My mantra is to photocopy anything that is going to DVLA and the date sent marked on the copy.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

sooner the better BB as you can do everything right, and DVLA will still chase you on a whim if THEY lose the paperwork. My mantra is to photocopy anything that is going to DVLA and the date sent marked on the copy.

Same here. Then the buggers can go swivel if they try it on.