Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

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When I feel strongly about something, such as in this case, LM, I will make a statement such as that which you have highlighted in your post. However, I am always mindful that the final decision has to be the OP's. The practice of engineering a failure to pay a fine is not only unsavoury, IMHO, it is potentially, perverting the course of justice as recovery of a fine is part of the judicial process and judicial process is used to issue the Distress Warrant, Clamping Orders and authority to force entry. Going back to the court, in this instance, isn't going to get the OP anywhere as the response they will get is that they have to deal with Marstons. Referring this to the HMCTS Regional Contracts Manager will probably achieve a better outcome as they are detached from the courts themselves and can clamp down on questionable practices by contracted bailiff companies. An RCM is in charge of enforcement within a region (There are currently 8 RCMs.) and is more senior in position than an Area Enforcement Manager.

Shouldn't this really be dealt with at Corporate Governance level?

The Chief Executive of HMCTS is one Peter Handcock.

Yes, really...

[bluebottle]

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BB - With all due respect, and I think you probably meant this, it would be for the OP to make this decision. I would also suggest that if it is considered suitably important, it be raised with Site Admin who could escalate it further.

OP - To me the immediate concern, as BB quite rightly identifies, is to notify the court that you are being prevented from making a payment. If this happens in future, make sure you get a screenshot of the refusal as evidence.

When I feel strongly about something, such as in this case, LM, I will make a statement such as that which you have highlighted in your post. However, I am always mindful that the final decision has to be the OP's. The practice of engineering a failure to pay a fine is not only unsavoury, IMHO, it is potentially, perverting the course of justice as recovery of a fine is part of the judicial process and judicial process is used to issue the Distress Warrant, Clamping Orders and authority to force entry. Going back to the court, in this instance, isn't going to get the OP anywhere as the response they will get is that they have to deal with Marstons. Referring this to the HMCTS Regional Contracts Manager will probably achieve a better outcome as they are detached from the courts themselves and can clamp down on questionable practices by contracted bailiff companies. An RCM is in charge of enforcement within a region (There are currently 8 RCMs.) and is more senior in position than an Area Enforcement Manager.

[bizzybob]

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You need to inform the court tomorrow of Marstons preventing you from paying the fine. Better still, refer this directly to the HMCTS Regional Contracts Manager. Don't bother with the HMCTS Area Enforcement Manager. This is an unsavoury and potentially illegal tactic of Marstons whereby they engineer an alleged failure to pay in order to justify forcing entry to a fine defaulter's home and boost their fees. I am sorely-tempted to bring this to the attention of the Head of Enforcement Operations for your area. Who are your local police force, please?

BB - With all due respect, and I think you probably meant this, it would be for the OP to make this decision. I would also suggest that if it is considered suitably important, it be raised with Site Admin who could escalate it further.

OP - To me the immediate concern, as BB quite rightly identifies, is to notify the court that you are being prevented from making a payment. If this happens in future, make sure you get a screenshot of the refusal as evidence.

[bizzybob]

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That is why the Tory, Helen Grant MP is the appropriate minister (link1, link2)

She is as greedy for expenses as a Marstons bailiff is for fees. Hope Celestine can help Kim to resolve this, by kicking it upstairs in the Marstons chain of command.

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And the minister couldn't care less as long as the money is collected.

That is why the Tory, Helen Grant MP is the appropriate minister (link1, link2)

[Celestine]

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Kim - Can you PM me your real name and enforcement notice number and I'll make sure Marstons Chief Executive sees it xx

[bizzybob]

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Thanks for your replies. Oh no u hope this isn't what they are doing! My local police force is suffolk police. I will phone the court tomorrow morning and explain my situation.
I did put in a complaint to marstons last week about all of what had happened, they sent a reply saying they were investigating the complaint and would get back to me.

Whilst your complaint is ongoing Marstons should hold back on further enforcement, if one of their throwbacks, turns up during the investigation period, film him even with your phone, or record voice, (covertly so as not to put yourself in danger, even though there is no law to prevent you filming or recording him, they are noted as being thuggish and nasty), to capture any threats that can be challenged later.

[kim481]

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Thanks for your replies. Oh no u hope this isn't what they are doing! My local police force is suffolk police. I will phone the court tomorrow morning and explain my situation.
I did put in a complaint to marstons last week about all of what had happened, they sent a reply saying they were investigating the complaint and would get back to me.

[bizzybob]

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That can only be done by the Minister for Injustice.

And the minister couldn't care less as long as the money is collected.

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Bluebottle, this needs stomping on yesterday, Marstons if they are obstructing Kim481 from paying her fine, just to garner fees and engineer forced entry, MUST be removed from the enforcement industry forthwith. BUT HOW?

That can only be done by the Minister for Injustice.

[bizzybob]

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Bluebottle, this needs stomping on yesterday, Marstons if they are obstructing Kim481 from paying her fine, just to garner fees and engineer forced entry, MUST be removed from the enforcement industry forthwith. BUT HOW?

[bluebottle]

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Hi everyone!

Well just a quick update and question for you all.
I haven't heard anything more from the policeman or bailiff. The bailiffs certificate ran out on 17.01.12!! I am still yet to call the court and see if he renewed this but I highly doubt it if the register has not been updated in a year!
i have today tried to make a payment to marstons for the fine but when I put in my reference number on the automated payment number, it is not recognised! Does this mean my account has been passed back to the court?
Thank you everyone who had advised me on this forum for your time

You need to inform the court tomorrow of Marstons preventing you from paying the fine. Better still, refer this directly to the HMCTS Regional Contracts Manager. Don't bother with the HMCTS Area Enforcement Manager. This is an unsavoury and potentially illegal tactic of Marstons whereby they engineer an alleged failure to pay in order to justify forcing entry to a fine defaulter's home and boost their fees. I am sorely-tempted to bring this to the attention of the Head of Enforcement Operations for your area. Who are your local police force, please?

[kim481]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

Hi everyone!

Well just a quick update and question for you all.
I haven't heard anything more from the policeman or bailiff. The bailiffs certificate ran out on 17.01.12!! I am still yet to call the court and see if he renewed this but I highly doubt it if the register has not been updated in a year!
i have today tried to make a payment to marstons for the fine but when I put in my reference number on the automated payment number, it is not recognised! Does this mean my account has been passed back to the court?
Thank you everyone who had advised me on this forum for your time

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