Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

Amazing what you can pick up on this forum,,I'm the idiot who once let a bailiff in !

Not anymore, eh?

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

Amazing what you can pick up on this forum,,I'm the idiot who once let a bailiff in !

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

I would say so, if something isn't on a system, where is their proof they can actually enforce, well spotted nice one Inca

HMCTS has been informed, bb, so it is a case of waiting to see what they do about it.

[bizzybob]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

Good grief,,did I say something intelligent? I must be learning lol

I would say so, if something isn't on a system, where is their proof they can actually enforce, well spotted nice one Inca

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

Good grief,,did I say something intelligent? I must be learning lol

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

I am going to update HMCTS on the matter of the account reference disappearing off Marston's system.

Update: HMCTS Enforcement Operations (South) informed.

[bizzybob]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

BlueBottle......If Marstons automated system doesn't recognise the OP's account...does that mean the account isn't valid?One wouldn't pay a debt that now appears to be unknown to Marstons would one?

But if the account isn't valid, and on their system, then arguably they have no right to enforce so marstons could be then regarded as acting and enforcing without authority, which if they threaten forced entry, prison etc, is demanding money with menaces.

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

BlueBottle......If Marstons automated system doesn't recognise the OP's account...does that mean the account isn't valid?One wouldn't pay a debt that now appears to be unknown to Marstons would one?

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

HMCTS Enforcement Operations have been given a link to this thread so they can follow developments. The submission that was sent to them is a summarised version of what has happened up to 19 March 2013.

I have read somewhere that if an attempt is made to pay a fine and the payment is refused, this, possibly, renders the warrant invalid. However, it does need to be looked into by HMCTS as preventing someone from paying a fine in order to garner fees is not only unfair, it is, potentially, fraudulent, as alluded by bb, and, possibly, a breach of Criminal Justice and Human Rights legislation.

[bizzybob]

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I understood that kim's account had apparently disappeared from the Marston system, thereby making it impossible to make any online payment.

They will doubtless say the hapless call centre operative who pressed the wrong key and deleted the account is signing on as we speak, lessons will be learned shilelaghs will be issued to bailiffs etc etc

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the other issue, is how Marstons did their best to actively PREVENT payment, surely this could be fraud?

I understood that kim's account had apparently disappeared from the Marston system, thereby making it impossible to make any online payment.

[bizzybob]

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And also about Marstons having apparently made it impossible for kim to make payments?

As for the clamp which disappeared, the possibilities would seem to be:

1. it sublimated into gas, which is impossible
2. someone took a completely silent angle-grinder (WDNE) to it so the neighbours would not hear
3. kim herself picked the lock or cut through the chain, then removed it
4. the ba:censored:bailiff removed the clamp (possibly leaving some iron filings and abrasive dust as "evidence") so he could then make a report to the plods that the car had been "stolen"

Point 4 gets my vote as a distinct possibility, the other issue, is how Marstons did their best to actively PREVENT payment, surely this could be fraud?

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I'd like to know what happened to the clamp.

We may never know, CC, but it will be interesting to see what HMCTS Enforcement Operations have to say about the bailiff's actions in this matter.

And also about Marstons having apparently made it impossible for kim to make payments?

As for the clamp which disappeared, the possibilities would seem to be:

1. it sublimated into gas, which is impossible
2. someone took a completely silent angle-grinder (WDNE) to it so the neighbours would not hear
3. kim herself picked the lock or cut through the chain, then removed it
4. the ba:censored:bailiff removed the clamp (possibly leaving some iron filings and abrasive dust as "evidence") so he could then make a report to the plods that the car had been "stolen"

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

I'd like to know what happened to the clamp.

We may never know, CC, but it will be interesting to see what HMCTS Enforcement Operations have to say about the bailiff's actions in this matter.

Re: Marston bailiff clamped my car!!

I'd like to know what happened to the clamp.