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[bluebottle]

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Right. This matter needs to be reported to the police without delay. I would suggest this is done with the assistance of your local MP. If the bailiff knew you were liable to self-harm and he produced a knife, in a public place, not only is he committing an offence relating to possession of the knife, but he could also be liable under legislation designed to protect those with mental health problems. Do not take any crap from the police about it being a civil matter and don't let them fob you off. If the civilian support staff on the front desk at the police station tries to fob you off, ask to speak to a sworn/warranted police officer.

Depending on the rank of the police officer you speak to, the usual route for complaining about police officers fobbing you off is -

Duty Officer (Inspector) -> Station Superintendent -> Divisional Commander (Chief Superintendent) -> Chief Constable -> IPCC

The bailiffs/HCEOs need hauling before a judge for their actions and their certificates discharged (cancelled). IMHO their behaviour raises serious questions as to their fitness to act as bailiffs/HCEOs.

[Patchie]

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I own a bookshop and I took the books to sell. It is a long story and one I am not proud of. But they do owe me royalties and no it will cover the cost of the books but it will reduce it. They have my second book which they will publish once I have paid this of. This time I will pay for them properly. Credit crunch does things to your head.

[ploddertom]

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What has happened here is that someone you owe money to has taken you to Court and obtained a CCJ against you? did you receive the original documentation? Did you acknowledge service? Did you defend the action? Were they given Judgment in Default?

As no monies were paid after the CCJ the Creditor has transferred the Judgment to the High Court for enforcement, which is where you are now. Depending on the answer above will depend on the advice offered.

[SpringerSpaniel]

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If I have understood correctly from your posts, they were court bailiffs enforcing a CCJ. They are therefore acting on behalf of a public body. ONE of the things you should do is to contact your MP about this.

As for the OC, do you have to continue trading with this company ? Is there an alternative supplier you could use who might have better business practices ?

[teaboy2]

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You said they owe you in royalties, is what they owe you more than what you owe them, and how did you come to being owing them money, when they published your book?

As for the knife, well is a criminal offence to carry a knife in public, so yes report it to your son! What they did when showing you the knife knowing what you did last time, is also harassment and a breach of protection from harassment act 1997. also a criminal offence!

[Patchie]

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I am sorry to hear of your experiences.

Were they collecting debt owed to a public authority such as a council, HMRC or court fines ? This may seem an odd or trivial point, but if they are then they are the agents of the OC; the OC is vicariouslly liable for the conduct of its agent and public bodies have a duty not to discriminate against you due to your disability in this way.

I am sure other members will advise further but you may be recommended to make a Form 4 Complaint about the bailiffs concerned.

It is a company debt from a company whose accountant is of the hard headed type - pay up or I will send the boys round. Everybody else I have debts with (mostly small) will be paid when i get my stock sold. It is from a County Court which is why i have written to them telling them what is going on and sent a copy of the letter I sent to high Court Collections. The Court I hope will take a dim view of this dimwit and the company he works for. Having read various threads it does seem that the collections profession is riddled with idiots with no brain cells. I am also tempted to ask my eldest son who is a serving policeman about the showing me a knife - it was certainly not a pen knife and what would he need it for anyway? What i am hoping for is the original company to take the debt back, tell HCC to take a running jump. What would a Form 4 complaint do?

[SpringerSpaniel]

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I am sorry to hear of your experiences.

Were they collecting debt owed to a public authority such as a council, HMRC or court fines ? This may seem an odd or trivial point, but if they are then they are the agents of the OC; the OC is vicariouslly liable for the conduct of its agent and public bodies have a duty not to discriminate against you due to your disability in this way.

I am sure other members will advise further but you may be recommended to make a Form 4 Complaint about the bailiffs concerned.