Common Purpose and the Post Democratic Era

[charitynjw]

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Out of the mouths of babes & innocents!

[Bill-K]

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Well, I hope that this little lady's career as an interior designer takes off, of course. Perhaps she grasps what her dear Mom [sic] has clearly taught her to say and believe, but I suspect she has no more idea than her Mom has. And of course her Mom has no idea, either.

Behold the monster whose creation we have allowed.

I must now go and tramp the streets of Cardboard City, wearing my sandwich-board. Be back shortly, after the usual 'hosing down' ceremony !!! There's nowt like a decent 'coldie' to cool one's ardour...

[bizzybob]

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The national press thought CP to be a trhreat, and started an expose, but went strangely quiet......Thqt cuts two ways folks.

[enquirer]

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Those who laugh and say 'paranoia' and 'conspiracy theory' would do well to look a little closer into these things.

[charitynjw]

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“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

[charitynjw]

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“You have deep-seated survival anxieties. And you don't like bigots, bullies, snobs or hypocrites. Subconsciously there are many people you hate."

"Consciously, sir, consciously," Yossarian corrected in an effort to help. "I hate them consciously.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

[bluebottle]

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Davide Icke's speeches can be dismissed - to a point - but Brian Gerrish's not so. He has researched what he says thoroughly and has the hard evidence to back up everything he puts out on UK Column Live via YouTube.

I received a letter from my MP, on Saturday, after I put a question to them about secret courts. The letter expressed concerns about these courts and the way the Tories steamrollered the legislation through. It is very worrying. Also, have you noticed the frequency with which David Cameron (aka Comrade Cameron, Chairman Cameron, Cabbage Patch Doll Cameron) talks publicly about getting rid of the Human Rights Act? Be in no doubt, this man, along with Mad Madam Mim May and Greasy Grayling, seem determined to get rid of the rights and freedoms our forefathers fought and died for in World War 2. The Council of Europe, which operates the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), and is made up of 78 European countries, was formed in the aftermath of WW2 and which lead to the European Convention on Human Rights in 1953 to ensure that the evil that pervaded Europe between 1939 and 1945 never walked the face of Europe again.

The Russian psychologist you refer to, Bill, is Karl Marx. The agitator whose creed "Rules for Radicals" Common Purpose "disciples", if you can call them that, follow is Saul Allinsky, who was American.

Be in no doubt, the threat to people's freedoms from Common Purpose is very real.

[Guest]

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Davide Icke's speeches can be dismissed - to a point - but Brian Gerrish's not so. He has researched what he says thoroughly and has the hard evidence to back up everything he puts out on UK Column Live via YouTube.

I received a letter from my MP, on Saturday, after I put a question to them about secret courts. The letter expressed concerns about these courts and the way the Tories steamrollered the legislation through. It is very worrying. Also, have you noticed the frequency with which David Cameron (aka Comrade Cameron, Chairman Cameron, Cabbage Patch Doll Cameron) talks publicly about getting rid of the Human Rights Act? Be in no doubt, this man, along with Mad Madam Mim May and Greasy Grayling, seem determined to get rid of the rights and freedoms our forefathers fought and died for in World War 2. The Council of Europe, which operates the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), and is made up of 78 European countries, was formed in the aftermath of WW2 and which lead to the European Convention on Human Rights in 1953 to ensure that the evil that pervaded Europe between 1939 and 1945 never walked the face of Europe again.

The Russian psychologist you refer to, Bill, is Karl Marx. The agitator whose creed "Rules for Radicals" Common Purpose "disciples", if you can call them that, follow is Saul Allinsky, who was American.

Be in no doubt, the threat to people's freedoms from Common Purpose is very real.

There are so many different issues in the above BB that I cold not hope to address them all, it is so much easier to lump them all together and say they are the fault of one evil organisation.

The truth is that each has its own individual cause and each will have its own individual solution(if a solution is needed), the name calling is unhelpful, but that is I suppose par for the course.

I would say that regarding the comments about the press somehow being silenced on this issue, I think it is far more likely that the reason for the silence is because there is no real issue, the press have not been known to be silenced on revealing big scandals in the past, I don't think they are about to start now.

[bluebottle]

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There are so many different issues in the above BB that I cold not hope to address them all, it is so much easier to lump them all together and say they are the fault of one evil organisation.

The truth is that each has its own individual cause and each will have its own individual solution(if a solution is needed), the name calling is unhelpful, but that is I suppose par for the course.

I would say that regarding the comments about the press somehow being silenced on this issue, I think it is far more likely that the reason for the silence is because there is no real issue, the press have not been known to be silenced on revealing big scandals in the past, I don't think they are about to start now.

If you want to do ostrich impressions, that's your prerogative. CP is like a spider's web that has infiltrated many aspects of British culture, the English Legal System and even tried to censor the media through the Leveson Enquiry, but, thankfully, failed in its objective. The more people who speak out about this insidious organisation and its siphoning off of millions of pounds of taxpayers' money, the better. Remember, the one think that terrifies CP and its followers more than anything is exposure.

[Guest]

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If you want to do ostrich impressions, that's your prerogative. CP is like a spider's web that has infiltrated many aspects of British culture, the English Legal System and even tried to censor the media through the Leveson Enquiry, but, thankfully, failed in its objective. The more people who speak out about this insidious organisation and its siphoning off of millions of pounds of taxpayers' money, the better. Remember, the one think that terrifies CP and its followers more than anything is exposure.

They don't appear to be secretive or terrorized here

http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/about


I am interested in the "post democratic " idea, does this have something to do with the age of Aquarius thing mentioned earlier ?

[Guest]

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There have been organisations which educate and indoctrinate the leaders of society, of course, Eaton springs to mind

[bluebottle]

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They don't appear to be secretive or terrorized here

http://www.commonpurpose.org.uk/about


I am interested in the "post democratic " idea, does this have something to do with the age of Aquarius thing mentioned earlier ?

If wouldn't fall for the crap they post on their website. They give the impression they are whiter than white, but have been found to be very manipulative and dishonest. Millions of pounds of taxpayer's money cannot be accounted for and much of it is strongly suspected of having ended up in CP coffers.

The "post democratic era" is not something I think even you would want to contemplate. It is a mixture of communism and fascism. The term "corporate fascism" is used to describe it more accurately, because the CP fantasy is to allow large corporations to dictate public policy and control everything. Individuals would be at the mercy of these oligarths. However, the revelations about SERCO, ATOS and G4S that have emerged in the past few weeks, plus revelations about Barclays Bank, RBS and other financial institutions, shows that the truth is coming out and when that happens, there is no escape.

The Age of Aquarius is a time of change and rebellion when the status quo and old order is broken down to be replaced by a new order. What we are seeing happening is the old order breaking down and what was hidden before - corruption, fraud and manipulation of the people - is being exposed. Call it an awakening, if you like. It is like we have all been sleepwalking towards this fantasy world those who subscribe to Marxist theories seem to believe in, but now we have been woken up with a jolt and it is up to us to break down that old order and replace it with something better. I was reading an article in The Independent last Friday where HoC Speaker John Bercow had publicly-stated that politics, in the UK, were becoming irrelevant due, mainly, to the way in which politicians were, basically, treating the people. It is becoming blindingly obvious that vested interests have been manipulating public policy through the current political system we have in the UK and this has to change. Electronic voting has been proposed and this is a start, but it will need the complete abolition of the current party and whip system to stop manipulation of public policy and laws by vested interests. Corrupting a political party is relatively easy if you are funding it and have whips who will dictate how MPs should vote, but corrupting 650 individual MPs with no political party or whips to dictate how they vote is far more difficult.

[Guest]

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If wouldn't fall for the crap they post on their website. They give the impression they are whiter than white, but have been found to be very manipulative and dishonest. Millions of pounds of taxpayer's money cannot be accounted for and much of it is strongly suspected of having ended up in CP coffers.

The "post democratic era" is not something I think even you would want to contemplate. It is a mixture of communism and fascism. The term "corporate fascism" is used to describe it more accurately, because the CP fantasy is to allow large corporations to dictate public policy and control everything. Individuals would be at the mercy of these oligarths. However, the revelations about SERCO, ATOS and G4S that have emerged in the past few weeks, plus revelations about Barclays Bank, RBS and other financial institutions, shows that the truth is coming out and when that happens, there is no escape.

The Age of Aquarius is a time of change and rebellion when the status quo and old order is broken down to be replaced by a new order. What we are seeing happening is the old order breaking down and what was hidden before - corruption, fraud and manipulation of the people - is being exposed. Call it an awakening, if you like. It is like we have all been sleepwalking towards this fantasy world those who subscribe to Marxist theories seem to believe in, but now we have been woken up with a jolt and it is up to us to break down that old order and replace it with something better. I was reading an article in The Independent last Friday where HoC Speaker John Bercow had publicly-stated that politics, in the UK, were becoming irrelevant due, mainly, to the way in which politicians were, basically, treating the people. It is becoming blindingly obvious that vested interests have been manipulating public policy through the current political system we have in the UK and this has to change. Electronic voting has been proposed and this is a start, but it will need the complete abolition of the current party and whip system to stop manipulation of public policy and laws by vested interests. Corrupting a political party is relatively easy if you are funding it and have whips who will dictate how MPs should vote, but corrupting 650 individual MPs with no political party or whips to dictate how they vote is far more difficult.

Well suppose I asked

Seems like a good idea to me, all working together for a common purpose of peace and prosperity.

We will have to agree to differ, here I think

[bluebottle]

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Well suppose I asked

Seems like a good idea to me, all working together for a common purpose of peace and prosperity.

We will have to agree to differ, here I think

It would be a very boring world if we all thought the same way. Even argumentative buggers like you have their place. :grin:

[enquirer]

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It is a mixture of communism and fascism.

Indeed.

The political spectrum is not, as they like people to believe, a straight line. It is actually a circle, with anarchy at the one side, totalitarianism at the other. This last may be achieved by one of two paths, but the end is the same, as they both sit next to each other on the same side of the circle.

Communism is state corporatism, and fascism (as defined by Mussolini himself), is the corporate state . Both are identical totalitarian regimes, the only difference being the label and the spurious ideology used to gull the masses.

The term "corporate fascism" is used to describe it more accurately, because the CP fantasy is to allow large corporations to dictate public policy and control everything. Individuals would be at the mercy of these oligarths. However, the revelations about SERCO, ATOS and G4S that have emerged in the past few weeks, plus revelations about Barclays Bank, RBS and other financial institutions, shows that the truth is coming out and when that happens, there is no escape.

Let us not forget another development - police helping bailiffs extract money. Thus, the police begin to merge with private corporations. Consider too, the manner in which the RSPCA has been allowed to access PNC and to not only alter, but to create records.

What we are seeing happening is the old order breaking down and what was hidden before - corruption, fraud and manipulation of the people - is being exposed. Call it an awakening, if you like.

Ah, but consider.

Their control of the mass media is absolute. No revelation appears without their express approval. Why then do they permit these exposures? The answer is simple - in order to create their 'new order', they must first destroy the old. The madness that one sees everywhere in government is actually nothing of the sort - society is not falling apart, it is being deconstructed.