Common Purpose and the Post Democratic Era

[enquirer]

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Now here's a question.

The EU is openly aiming at single european state. There can't be a King or Queen of England in a single european state, so what are they going to do with the Windsors? How will they break public attachment to the monarchy?

I am old enough to remember when scandals involving the monarchy were routinely kept out of the press. Yet suddenly, and across the board, damaging material started to be published. Somewhere, a decision was taken.

[labman]

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So as the saying goes, "Power corrupts; Absolute power corrupts absolutely!"

I think it's a really interesting subject to debate, but I think much of this corruption has been going on far, far longer than people give credit for. Feudalism was not a million miles away from what you have painted.

[Guest]

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I am old enough to remember when scandals involving the monarchy were routinely kept out of the press. Yet suddenly, and across the board, damaging material started to be published. Somewhere, a decision was taken.

The boring explanation would be that it used to be far easier to keep a secret. Everything leaks like a sieve these days, so the powers that be tend to come clean rather than wait for someone to tweet the goods over't tinternet, some would say that this is a good thing,

[Guest]

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I see no problem with a united states of Europe, perhaps not now certainly not in my lifetime but perhaps in my grandchildrens, an inevitability, and as far as a step towards world wide peace and security a good step in the right direction IMO.

Nothing preventing each of the states (countries) preserving there national identity, until the effort became to burdensome and everyone learned to relax and realize that we are all the same.

[labman]

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This is a direct quotation from Julia Middleton, "This is about people in institutions losing sight of what they are about, people trying to act above the law, people doing unforgivable things to others, people who as leaders refuse to accept responsibility for what happens around them. If we duck this, and don’t help the brave to be brave, we are in trouble."

I think that's quite a noble statement, made in the House of Lords. I think it's good to get people to accept responsibility for their actions; indeed one of my 'catchphrases' at present is, "People know all their rights, but none of their responsibilities." I believe there is much truth in this, and addressing it seems a very good idea.

[bluebottle]

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Indeed.

The political spectrum is not, as they like people to believe, a straight line. It is actually a circle, with anarchy at the one side, totalitarianism at the other. This last may be achieved by one of two paths, but the end is the same, as they both sit next to each other on the same side of the circle.

Communism is state corporatism, and fascism (as defined by Mussolini himself), is the corporate state . Both are identical totalitarian regimes, the only difference being the label and the spurious ideology used to gull the masses.


Let us not forget another development - police helping bailiffs extract money. Thus, the police begin to merge with private corporations. Consider too, the manner in which the RSPCA has been allowed to access PNC and to not only alter, but to create records.


Ah, but consider.

Their control of the mass media is absolute. No revelation appears without their express approval. Why then do they permit these exposures? The answer is simple - in order to create their 'new order', they must first destroy the old. The madness that one sees everywhere in government is actually nothing of the sort - society is not falling apart, it is being deconstructed.

Although the likes of Murdoch have almost total control of the mass media, there is the alternative media. However, I have no doubt Comrade Cameron will try and censor that, given the chance, the slimy little sod.

[charitynjw]

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& what happens when they pull the plug on the interweb?

Would it not also be a plan to have an alternative way of communication in place?

[bluebottle]

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& what happens when they pull the plug on the interweb?

Refer to the last part of my post, Charity.

[charitynjw]

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:thumb:

[charitynjw]

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“Non in depravatis, sed in his quae bene secundum naturam se habent, considerandum est quid sit naturale.”
Aristotle

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/r/rous...es/inequality/

[Guest]

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This is a direct quotation from Julia Middleton, "This is about people in institutions losing sight of what they are about, people trying to act above the law, people doing unforgivable things to others, people who as leaders refuse to accept responsibility for what happens around them. If we duck this, and don’t help the brave to be brave, we are in trouble."

I think that's quite a noble statement, made in the House of Lords. I think it's good to get people to accept responsibility for their actions; indeed one of my 'catchphrases' at present is, "People know all their rights, but none of their responsibilities." I believe there is much truth in this, and addressing it seems a very good idea.

Yes and leading light in Common Purpose of course.

If there was any real proof that this was "evil empire building" i am sure that we would have it, all we are being given is, prices are going up , people are being overpaid, utilities and quangos are out of control.

Well I am sorry but what else is new, these things have always happened and unfortunately they always will, it should not stop us looking to the future and trying to find means of working together.

[enquirer]

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... it should not stop us looking to the future and trying to find means of working together.

Common Purpose makes no secret about the fact that it favours a totalitarian society in which the elite are above the law. Man and Superman - this is a very Nietzschean concept.

To those who believe it will lead to some sort of hippy-happy-hoppy utopia, one need only point out that they are not actually being asked what they want - they are being told what they will have.

[labman]

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Common Purpose makes no secret about the fact that it favours a totalitarian society in which the elite are above the law. Man and Superman - this is a very Nietzschean concept.

Can you link to some respected articles to back up this statement? :beagle:

[Guest]

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Can you link to some respected articles to back up this statement? :beagle:

Yes they seem to have left that off their website, strange if they make no secret of the "fact".

[bluebottle]

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If you want any evidence of what could happen, you only have to watch "Hitler - A Profile". I watched this on the Yesterday channel yesterday and the parallels between Nazism and Common Purpose's goals were chilling. I do know the programme is available on YouTube, so I will track it down and post up later on today.