Ding Dong the Witch is Dead

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No it won't, the majority of any aid money is taken by the people in Government and squandered as in the case of India sending rockets up into the air instead of using the money for the intended purpose which was to help the poor of the country. Years ago we sent money to Ethiopia which went into the bank accounts of those in charge and the poor and starving were still left to starve, hence Live Aid.

That is a valid case for monitoring overseas aid.

It is not a viable excuse for squandering taxpayers' money on a funeral.

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Just as appalling were the rationalisations offered by "Baroness" Buscombe on the PM programme (BBC Home Service, today) of why the Radio One Chart Show should not feature the song; 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead'.

There is no rational argument for the nationally funded Radio One Chart Show to feature a song that celebtrates the death of any British subject.

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Arthur Scargill texts.............

To Arthur..........Thatcher dead
From Arthur.......Scargill lives

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No it won't, the majority of any aid money is taken by the people in Government and squandered as in the case of India sending rockets up into the air instead of using the money for the intended purpose which was to help the poor of the country. Years ago we sent money to Ethiopia which went into the bank accounts of those in charge and the poor and starving were still left to starve, hence Live Aid.

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I have to say that I agree with the sentiment that we, the taxpayers, should not be paying £10M for the funeral of a past PM during what is supposed to be a time of austerity.

I think it's worth pointing out that the cost is being shared between the tax payer and Margaret Thatcher's estate.

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Won't much, most or all of the aid be spent on capital projects run by British companies?

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I'd rather we spent £10m on a funeral for a past Prime Minister than send in excess of £60 billion in alleged aid to Pakistan.

Why?

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I'm afraid she and her cronies did untold damage to Plymouth, where I was born and brought up. The city is still recovering from what happened to the Royal Dockyard. As a Janner born and bred and proud of it, it sickens me to the core that so much damage could be done to a city that is a key part of the UK's defence capability by so few people.

But why wasn't Murmansk invited to submit a competitive tender?

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Just as appalling were the rationalisations offered by "Baroness" Buscombe on the PM programme (BBC Home Service, today) of why the Radio One Chart Show should not feature the song; 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead'. According to "Lady" Buscombe, Thatcher saved this country from becoming a 3rd world regime and she brought in the web and mobile phones. I almost expected the silly woman to thank The Blessed Margaret for having caused the sun to shine, cows to give milk and hens to lay eggs...

Buscombe's argument was really nothing more than a restatement of the belief that freedom of expression is so precious that it must be rationed.

[bluebottle]

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I'm afraid she and her cronies did untold damage to Plymouth, where I was born and brought up. The city is still recovering from what happened to the Royal Dockyard. As a Janner born and bred and proud of it, it sickens me to the core that so much damage could be done to a city that is a key part of the UK's defence capability by so few people.

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It astonishes me that around £8-10M is going to be spent on her funeral.

"There is no such thing as public money there is only such thing as tax payers money."- Margaret Thatcher

So why is any tax payers' money being shamelessly squandered on the ceremonial funeral of that appallingly miserly harpy?

To: Matthew Sinclair, Chief Executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance

As you claim to stand for TaxPayers, I would very much appreciate it if you took a principled stand again the spending of up to £10 million of our money on the funeral of M Thatcher. It really shouldn't cost more than £5,000 to bury or cremate someone in these times of austerity.

How expensive would be a cheap and chippy cardboard box and a decent communal bonfire?

I agree with Ken Loach's sentiment that the funeral should be privatized and put out to tender, the cheapest bid should be taken. Alternatively, many of her friends that made millions as a consequence of her actions, could have a quick 'whip round' and easily afford the cost.
They could even sell tickets and make a profit. Some of this money could be donated to the parts of the country & people that have yet to recover

Even more money could be raised by cancelling her cremation, soaking her remains in PEG solution to replace all the water and, after she has been pickled, mummified or preserved, she could be privatised by selling her off for souvenirs by the half pound or by the slice, rather as she did with British manufacturing industry.

Isn't that what she would have wanted?

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I'd rather we spent £10m on a funeral for a past Prime Minister than send in excess of £60 billion in alleged aid to Pakistan.

[bluebottle]

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Personally I could not stand the woman and what she did to so many parts of our country, communities & people. The single most divisive PM we have ever had. Inspiring the attitude of- 'me me me' & greed. There continues to be alot of people and some communities that are still suffering with the consequences of her legacy and the things she put in motion. (lack of investment, retraining etc)

I am particularly annoyed regarding the cost of this funeral, especially during this time of cut backs & austerity, (the poor and vulnerable once again who will be suffering the most & the rich getting tax breaks). It astonishes me that around £8-10M is going to be spent on her funeral.

I agree with Ken Loach's sentiment that the funeral should be privatized and put out to tender, the cheapest bid should be taken. Alternatively, many of her friends that made millions as a consequence of her actions, could have a quick 'whip round' and easily afford the cost.
They could even sell tickets and make a profit. Some of this money could be donated to the parts of the country & people that have yet to recover

There is no such thing as society.
There is no such thing as public money there is only such thing as tax payers money .
We have a duty to make sure that every penny piece that is raised in taxation is spent wisely & well. For it is our party that is dedicated to good house keeping. - Margaret Thatcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvz8tg4MVpA

On a note of interest the song; 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' is number one in the iTunes charts. (no I haven't bought one)

There is a peteion regards this on change.org-
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...cher-s-funeral
I know there is no chance of this being changed, but there is the principle. (The reasons on the site are worth a quick read)

To:
Matthew Sinclair, Chief Executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance

As you claim to stand for TaxPayers, I would very much appreciate it if you took a principled stand again the spending of up to £10 million of our money on the funeral of M Thatcher. It really shouldn't cost more than £5,000 to bury or cremate someone in these times of austerity.

If anyone wants a big funeral, there's plenty of private money that can be attracted.

Thanks

Sincerely,
[Your name]

I have to say that I agree with the sentiment that we, the taxpayers, should not be paying £10M for the funeral of a past PM during what is supposed to be a time of austerity. If Thatcher's supporters in the CBI, IoD and other right-leaning groups want to chip in, fair enough. But do not expect hard-working people who pay their taxes to pay for the funeral of an icon/heroine of those who do everything possible to avoid paying any tax at all. Perhaps Lord Ashcroft should be asked to stump up some or all of the cost.

[Gurraaaagh!]

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Personally I could not stand the woman and what she did to so many parts of our country, communities & people. The single most divisive PM we have ever had. Inspiring the attitude of- 'me me me' & greed. There continues to be alot of people and some communities that are still suffering with the consequences of her legacy and the things she put in motion. (lack of investment, retraining etc)

I am particularly annoyed regarding the cost of this funeral, especially during this time of cut backs & austerity, (the poor and vulnerable once again who will be suffering the most & the rich getting tax breaks). It astonishes me that around £8-10M is going to be spent on her funeral.

I agree with Ken Loach's sentiment that the funeral should be privatized and put out to tender, the cheapest bid should be taken. Alternatively, many of her friends that made millions as a consequence of her actions, could have a quick 'whip round' and easily afford the cost.
They could even sell tickets and make a profit. Some of this money could be donated to the parts of the country & people that have yet to recover

There is no such thing as society.
There is no such thing as public money there is only such thing as tax payers money .
We have a duty to make sure that every penny piece that is raised in taxation is spent wisely & well. For it is our party that is dedicated to good house keeping. - Margaret Thatcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvz8tg4MVpA

On a note of interest the song; 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' is number one in the iTunes charts. (no I haven't bought one)

There is a peteion regards this on change.org-
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...cher-s-funeral
I know there is no chance of this being changed, but there is the principle. (The reasons on the site are worth a quick read)

To:
Matthew Sinclair, Chief Executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance

As you claim to stand for TaxPayers, I would very much appreciate it if you took a principled stand again the spending of up to £10 million of our money on the funeral of M Thatcher. It really shouldn't cost more than £5,000 to bury or cremate someone in these times of austerity.

If anyone wants a big funeral, there's plenty of private money that can be attracted.

Thanks

Sincerely,
[Your name]

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we after all live in a developed democracy

We don't.

The UK is an increasingly kakistocratic oligarchy in which the lower house seems to be populated by snollygosters and, since the removal of most of the hereditary peers, the upper house seems to be populated mainly by their cronies.