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What amazes me is that a lot (not all) of the people doing the celebrating, also claim to be out of work, have no future, are existing on benefits, yet they can afford to waste money on bottles of bubbly.
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I wouldn't have thought this would need explaining.Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
Why?
Is she sensible to the comments now being made about her?
But it is basic civilized behavior to allow those who wish to mourn someones passing to do so in peace.
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I was born in 1959.Originally posted by Angry Cat View PostInteresting to note that the majority of people who are being totally disrespectful weren't even born until after the 1970's. And many others were just primary school children or mere adolescents.
I was a member of the Federation of Conservative Students in 1979 but, by the time she was obliged to quit in 1990, I was disgusted at how she had remodelled the Party to suit herself and was thoroughly ashamed that I had ever supported such an egregiously disingenuous snollygoster.
Why?For God's sake,please, have some respect for the dead!
Is she sensible to the comments now being made about her?
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Interesting to note that the majority of people who are being totally disrespectful weren't even born until after the 1970's. And many others were just primary school children or mere adolescents.
For God's sake,please, have some respect for the dead!
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I entirely agree.Originally posted by Celestine View PostI'm no fan of Thatcher, for reasons personal to me only, yet even I believe that as a former British Prime Minister, the first woman ever to hold that office, who was elected thrice, who was a very high profile British figure AND who was clearly admired by many, she should have an appropriate funeral.
Her funeral should be every bit as ceremonial and commemorative as were the funerals of Clement Atlee and Edward Heath.
Her departure from Downing Street was the end of an error. (No, that was not a typo.)The society of the UK is never going to unite in opinion of Thatcher, but at this time of her death, the negative opinions cannot outweigh the need for our nation to behave in a dignified and respectful manner towards a recently deceased woman.
The expressions of disdain for her would have been tempered somewhat had she shown the least scintilla of remorse, but it seems she did not. She had the morals and approach of another Boadicea Boswell.
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http://www.krowmarkworkwear.com/prod...te-Maggie.htmlOriginally posted by Celestine View PostGoing on the logical assumption that Lady T was the political equivalent of Marmite, there are going to be lovers and haters and even just those who wish to pay respects.
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If anyone is interested in the facts rather than the hype and emotions, you may find this article interesting. Its unusual in being an objective and balanced study by an economist with no political axe to grind.
http://www.voxeu.org/article/mrs-tha...conomic-legacy
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I am neither a socialist nor a militant.Originally posted by EXC View PostHow, even in your warped world of socialist militancy, can a decision not to play a song written from a 1939 musical possibly amount to an 'almost textbook suppression of news'?
Your ad hominem comments debase this system.
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I'm no fan of Thatcher, for reasons personal to me only, yet even I believe that as a former British Prime Minister, the first woman ever to hold that office, who was elected thrice, who was a very high profile British figure AND who was clearly admired by many, she should have an appropriate funeral.
The society of the UK is never going to unite in opinion of Thatcher, but at this time of her death, the negative opinions cannot outweigh the need for our nation to behave in a dignified and respectful manner towards a recently deceased woman.
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Personally I am totally opposed to censorship in any form even tor the above ill informed drivel.Originally posted by CleverClogs View PostNo, it isn't.
Some may have bought or played that song merely to celebrate the eventual demise of an arrogant and obstinate politician who presided over the destruction of much of British manufacturing industry and of the communities they supported.
Others may have bought or played that song for quite other reasons, such as a feeling of a different Zeitgeist in modern Britain, where the anti-homosexual prejudice embodied in Section 28 (link, in case you'd forgotten) must never again made law and where Parliament should never again be allowed to pander to prejudice.
Yet others may have bought or played that song simply because it is a catchy tune.
Utter nonsense.
Suppression of news that some might not like is censorship - indeed, it is almost a textbook definition of censorship.
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Originally posted by CleverClogs View PostUtter nonsense.
Suppression of news that some might not like is censorship - indeed, it is almost a textbook definition of censorship.
How, even in your warped world of socialist militancy, can a decision not to play a song written from a 1939 musical possibly amount to an 'almost textbook suppression of news'?Last edited by EXC; 12th April 2013, 09:58:AM.
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No, it isn't.Originally posted by EXC View PostThe song is being bought and played for no other reason than to celebrate the death.
Some may have bought or played that song merely to celebrate the eventual demise of an arrogant and obstinate politician who presided over the destruction of much of British manufacturing industry and of the communities they supported.
Others may have bought or played that song for quite other reasons, such as a feeling of a different Zeitgeist in modern Britain, where the anti-homosexual prejudice embodied in Section 28 (link, in case you'd forgotten) must never again made law and where Parliament should never again be allowed to pander to prejudice.
Yet others may have bought or played that song simply because it is a catchy tune.
Utter nonsense.It has nothing to do with censorship (or free speech) and everything to do with the rational of a civilised nation's public broadcasting service invading the grief of fellow nationals in the name of entertainment.
Suppression of news that some might not like is censorship - indeed, it is almost a textbook definition of censorship.
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Frankly, I am totally dismayed/disgusted by some of the comments being made on here...!
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Are we talking about the song "ding dong the witch is dead"?Originally posted by EXC View PostEven the Press Complaints Commission who oversee our famously free press (and who the papers themselves agree is not tough enough) has a clause in it's code that prohibits intrusion into grief.
If we are then we disagree on the issue. Yes, people may be buying it on the basis that Mrs Thatcher is dead but ultimately, the song dates back to the film "The Wizard of Oz".
Unfortunately, the BBC does not compile the charts but if the buying public pays for the single then failing to play the song at number 1 is ridiculous. If the family believe the song is about Maggie Thatcher then they need to really get a life. Had it been a rehash and stated "Ding Dong that bitch is dead" then that might be different.
As an aside, if they did refuse to play then then why on earth did they play "let's get ready to rumble" by Ant and Dec, a song that had never reached number 1 on its release date
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That's the irony. It is those that will be planning on causing trouble who will be complaining of the policing costs.Originally posted by enaid View PostI do believe a big chunk of the 10mil is for policing and security, why oh why that is needed at a funeral no matter who it is I don't know.
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