Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

[TUTTSI]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Maybe we will be like China, where they limit what people can view on the internet and world news.

Imho, this has tolled the death knell on super-injunctions.
What are the Judges going to do; overturn Parliamentary Privilege while at the same time banning the entire UK population from Google Search?

[leclerc]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

The footballer that now one must name, has just been named on channel 5 news @ 5pm

Apparently, an MP used his parlimentary privilge to name him, so now papers are reporting on this guy using the name 'Ryan Giggs' in parliament

his name was on twitter weeks ago(and as a twit myself I knew very early on), it was in the Sunday Herald in Scotland albeit the picture with the words censored over the front of the eyes.

With regards to Sir Fred, initially we didn't know what he had a super injunction for. Only recently did we find that it was because he had an affair and yet again twitter and the www outed the name. To be honest, a super injunction is a complete waste of time in the internet age cos it holds no water.

[Garlok]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

I find this all very sad as it just shows what a complete shambles British Law has become. The arrogance and disrespect of parliament (whatever we may think of its members individually) by these bewigged buffoons beggars belief.

They are consistently and incessantly whinging and whining on about ordinary people having no respect for the law.

I HAVE ONE PIECE OF ADVICE FOR THE JUDICIARY AND THE LORD CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE:-
TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN YOUR BATHROOM MIRROR THIS MORNING- YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PROBLEM!

regards
Garlok

[Sapphire]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Have we found out who he had the affair with since the news have said that the injunction has been lifted?

I suspect its everyone in this country as he has effectively 'shafted' us all msl:

[charitynjw]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

I find this all very sad as it just shows what a complete shambles British Law has become. The arrogance and disrespect of parliament (whatever we may think of its members individually) by these bewigged buffoons beggars belief.

They are consistently and incessantly whinging and whining on about ordinary people having no respect for the law.

I HAVE ONE PIECE OF ADVICE FOR THE JUDICIARY AND THE LORD CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE:-
TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN YOUR BATHROOM MIRROR THIS MORNING- YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PROBLEM!

regards
Garlok

Only my opinion, but this is just another battle in the age-old war between the Judiciary & Parliament as to who rules the roost. (I don't think their Lordships have ever forgiven Cromwell for what happened to Charles I, lol)

[Garlok]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Perhaps that is why I do so badly in life, I have always aspired to be leveller in the New Model Army or change my name by deed poll to Mathew Hopkins (banker finder general). The French took our idea and removed their problems with Madame Guillotine.

You could knit Charity whilst I pulled the string!

regards
Garlok

[Angry Cat]

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Call for 'gag shambles' law change - AOL NEWS

[Garlok]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Unfortunately this has clearly demonstrated that there actaully is a "them and us" situation in the country. Lord wakeman is correct in what he says in the above link.

I have discussed on another thread the impact of IR35 on the technical abilities of this country but the Paymaster Genral insisted on implementing it. The original list of exemptions included:-

ENTERTAINERS.
PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS
HOSPITAL CONSULTANTS ( ripping the NHS off with private work using OUR resources)
FREELANCE TRADERS WORKING IN BANKS.

This heinous piece of "legislation" is nothing more than out and out discrimination against ordinary folk, yet this latest gagging shambles demonstrates further that if you have enough then you can even buy the courts and judges. Something that seems to have been lost on this thread is the fact that ALL of these super injunction people have courted the media for their own ends when it has suited them, yet when the wheel turns and it no longer suits their selfish ends then they whinge to the courts and buy their way to gagging the media they have courted.

To be honest they deserve everything they get if they are found out shagging the bosses wife or worse.

regards
Garlok

[Angry Cat]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Unfortunately this has clearly demonstrated that there actaully is a "them and us" situation in the country. Lord wakeman is correct in what he says in the above link.

I have discussed on another thread the impact of IR35 on the technical abilities of this country but the Paymaster Genral insisted on implementing it. The original list of exemptions included:-

ENTERTAINERS.
PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLERS
HOSPITAL CONSULTANTS ( ripping the NHS off with private work using OUR resources)
FREELANCE TRADERS WORKING IN BANKS.

This heinous piece of "legislation" is nothing more than out and out discrimination against ordinary folk, yet this latest gagging shambles demonstrates further that if you have enough then you can even buy the courts and judges. Something that seems to have been lost on this thread is the fact that ALL of these super injunction people have courted the media for their own ends when it has suited them, yet when the wheel turns and it no longer suits their selfish ends then they whinge to the courts and buy their way to gagging the media they have courted.

To be honest they deserve everything they get if they are found out shagging the bosses wife or worse.

regards
Garlok

And what does the man who shagged the Royal Bank;
the Country and;
cheated on his wife, deserve?

[Amy]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

One of these days, I am going to school you in the correct use of the semi colon.

[TUTTSI]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

They reckon it cost for the gaging order for Mr G £250k what a waste of money and a total waste of time. It is now yesterdays news and who cares what he did tbvh, it only sells newspapers.

[charitynjw]

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While we're on the subject (sort of), what about other types of 'gagging' orders?
Big Business hiding behind 'commercial confidentiality'.
'Legal privilege'
&, of course*; those who use Freedom of Information exemptions as a 'get out of jail' card in almost any request!!

*The semi-colon has been a sadly underused punctuation mark, destined, I fear, to suffer the fate of the Dodo.
Bring back the semi-colon, I say!!
And as for the Oxford comma..................:bounce:

[Amy]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

The Oxford comma is for numpties who were clearly absent from school the day that lesson was taught.

[Garlok]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

I'm afraid I can't say honestly in public, Angry Cat, the moderators would almost certainly be just a tad miffed and I would be in trouble again.

As to your comment Tuttsi, on the face of it you are right, it sells newspapers but in the Giggs affair what the hell. In the disgrace of Goodwin affair, it really does matter, as leclerc has said and demonstrated by documentation, he should have been fired under the banks own disciplinary procedures. You and I and everyone else has paid hard earned money that we cannot afford to right the wrongs at the institution he was responsible for. Yet vulnerable adults and the elderly are having their care removed or cut because so much was wasted on this appalling man and his kind. Is that correct behaviour for a so called civilised society?

Secondly his gagging order and that of Giggs and others like Marr has demonstrated clearly that our justice system can be bought, judges can be bought and so called ethical barristers can be bought. You and I in general are denied legal aid to get justice, therefore rarely do we get real justice.

I am aware of qualified people and people in senior positions who are both angry and worried at the seriousness of the situation. Judges making law is actually illegal and their constant demands should dee them removed from the Bench. Reference Bill of Rights. It is perhaps a clear indication of the state of our so called justice system that something so seedy as totally amoral people like Goodwin, Giggs et al have been the catalyst to bring this to the forefront.

To say that it is all trivial is perhaps flippant and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the principles which are being thrown to the wall which will eventually be of detriment to you and I, our children and grandchildren in the future if allowed to continue.

Remember, Abraham Lincoln, Gettysburg Address? "so that government of the people, BY the people, FOR the people shal not perish from this earth".

Now which tome shall I reach down from my bookshelf? Das Kapital or Mein Kampf?

regards
Garlok

[Angry Cat]

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One of these days, I am going to school you in the correct use of the semi colon.

I wonder if the etiquette of not correcting people is something that used to be well-known and now isn't?

Perhaps, you should focus on the issue raised within this thread and reserve your off topic comments to the LB Chatbox.