Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

[charitynjw]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

his name was on twitter weeks ago(and as a twit myself I knew very early on), it was in the Sunday Herald in Scotland albeit the picture with the words censored over the front of the eyes.

With regards to Sir Fred, initially we didn't know what he had a super injunction for. Only recently did we find that it was because he had an affair and yet again twitter and the www outed the name. To be honest, a super injunction is a complete waste of time in the internet age cos it holds no water.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

One of the fun aspects of Twitter is that you can pretend to be someone else--or just make a name up for yourself--and express your true feelings about so very many things.
However, if your feelings happen to be seen as libelous, you might now have a problem.
For the Guardian reports that Twitter has revealed the name, e-mail address, and telephone number of a person who tweeted some rather critical notions about a local council in the U.K.
The council of South Tyneside, in the rather chilly north of England, decided to petition a court in California in order to secure these details.
Twitter's privacy policy does state the following: "We may disclose your information if we believe that it is reasonably necessary to comply with a law, regulation, or legal request; to protect the safety of any person; to address fraud, security, or technical issues; or to protect Twitter's rights or property......

Also:-

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20...ol;mlt_related

[Angry Cat]

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Does that mean Yes or No cos I still don't know the answer from the Peston blog?

Leclerc, all are prohibited from sharing the information:
BBC News - FSA to look at Goodwins alleged affair

Therefore, one cannot provide a 'Yes or No' to your question.

[CleverClogs]

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For the Guardian reports that Twitter has revealed the name, e-mail address, and telephone number of a person who tweeted some rather critical notions about a local council in the U.K.
The council of South Tyneside, in the rather chilly north of England, decided to petition a court in California in order to secure these details.

Reports suggest that mounting the case in California has cost the taxpayers of South Tyneside some £75,000. Even if a forthcoming defamation action were to be successful - and it is more likely to be regarded as slander than libel - the costs of that action are relatively unlikely to be recovered from the defendant.

I wonder if the local government standards body, Standards For England, will consider that to be a valid use of council tax payers' money; I rather doubt the local electorate will, when a councillor seeks re-election having cut services to save money.

[Ihaterbs]

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Pair bid to break the Royal Bank of Scotland deadlock | Mail Online

Me thinks a lot of funny hand shakes are going to be done.

Real Business - RBS collapse: FSA asks Mr Whitewash to investigate

[Garlok]

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Yes. It has to be remembered that an awful lot, approximately 1 million of them list membership of very secretive organisations amongst their extra curricular activities particularly those that class themselves as "professionals".

Therefore a significant proportion of the judiciary CANNOT by oath ("on pain of death") be independent and objective where a fellow member is concerned.

regards
Garlok

[Angry Cat]

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BBC News -

[CleverClogs]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Yes. It has to be remembered that an awful lot, approximately 1 million of them list membership of very secretive organisations amongst their extra curricular activities particularly those that class themselves as "professionals".

Therefore a significant proportion of the judiciary CANNOT by oath ("on pain of death") be independent and objective where a fellow member is concerned.

You've never been a Freemason, have you?

[Angry Cat]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Worshipful Master;
Past Master, Fred...

[Garlok]

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No CC I have NOT and AM NOT! However as my family is steeped in the tradition (and still are) I know far too much for my own good about this organisation. Right thro Craft (Blue Lodge) European esoteric, Chapter, Knights Templar, The Order of St John of Malta (Hospitallers), Rosicrucians etc etc.

What I am aware of are Masons who are concerned about the abuses and I am also aware of Masons who now insist on the words of the OLD oath being used in initiation rites which include the words "any ordinance of the land" and not the more modern version which gives them a get out clause for fellow member transgressors.

I am not a catholic either, but it should be noted that John F Kennedy made a speech in 1961, not long before his assassination which referred to this "odious organisation" having no place in modern civilised society. No organised Christian Church (including the Anglicans) has found compatibility with christian ethics in it and that is despite the fact that the God of the Rosicrucians must be a christian God yet freemasonry in itself allows for any god (a member must want to be freemason, must be of sound body and mind, and must be believe in a god any god).

For the more politically minded is it not strange that a"deal" has been done between the Catholic church (Opus Dei) and the Masonic movement after centuries of implaccable enmity?

regards
Garlok

[leclerc]

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Apologies for off topic content but JFK was assassinated in November 1963 and the speech was made to the American Newspapers Publishers Association in April 1961 which was at the start of his Presidency. The title of the speech was "The President and the Press"
The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961 - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum


The above has the full text of that speech which might give a little bit of context to the quote which is misquoted many times by many people to suggest he was talking about Masons, etc, etc, clearly he wasn't.

[Garlok]

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With respect LC, I would disagree as many many better commentators and researchers than I have clearly drawn the conclusion that I have passd on. For example a lifelong researcher, writer and New Zealand evangelist one Barry R Smith made a detailed analysis of this particular speech if indeed this is the correct speech, ("Better than Nostradamus") and in keeping with most other researchers and analysts made a concurring conclusion as I put forward above. In the particular case noted it is alleged by some that part of his life was spent in hiding as a result of an "underworld" contract being placed on his head.

As to your dates fine but it was a very short time in fact in the great scheme of things.

regards
Garlok

[Sapphire]

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For the avoidance of doubt the Freemasons are not a Secret Society it is actually a Society with Secrets, yes they have initiation ceremonies and they are very careful who they admit, and as you probably know you cannot apply to be a Mason you have to be asked.
Also I would tell you that the Freemasons are the biggest charity givers in the world and have raised millions of pounds over the years.

[leclerc]

Re: Sir Fred Goodwin is not a banker

Garlok, when you wrote about the JFK speech it was about "secret societies" so there is only one speech on that topic by JFK that is always quoted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
You can compare and contrast the text that I have given you the link to.

I haven't read Barry Smith's analysis but from seeing his belief in the Illuminati then I am unfortunately mainstream in my views, ie I don't believe in New World Order(unless it the Hulk Hogan WCW wrestling thing) or secret handshakes. Others can do and that is their bag, but I don't. Anyway, I am sure you all want to talk about Sir Fred rather than JFK so I'll desist further from this topic and probably this thread.

[Garlok]

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Good

Because the seriousness of the Goodwin affair for all us should open all avenues.

perhaps you don't believe about the abuse in care homes for vulnerable adults exposed by the BBC last night either!

And for your information "secret" handshakes or "grips as they known DO exist as a sign of recognition and seniority beween fraternal brothers of the Masonic leaning.

regards
Garlok

[Sapphire]

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"grips as they known DO exist as a sign of recognition and seniority beween fraternal brothers of the Masonic leaning.

Yes they do, so do signs and words, they are so that Masons can identify other Masons, there's nothing wrong with that at all.