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Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

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  • #16
    Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

    Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
    Hi nem
    thanks for your reply
    the address on the citi agreement is exactly the same but it does look like its retracted
    there is no signature panel anywhere on the citi or opus agreement
    i never signed an agreement with opus
    what do you advise?
    thanks
    richard
    OK Richard,

    What you have is I think a " reconstituted" agreement this does not have to have a signature panel at all.

    If you weren't sent a new agreement for Opus then that can be a key part of he defence.

    e.g. I have not at any time seen or signed any agreement with Opus for the provision of any credit facility.
    How is the address " retracted"/

    nem

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    • #17
      Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

      hi nem

      the retracted (if this is correct)original terms and show my address as:

      Name
      my full address as it appeared on citi and opus card satements

      please see the copies attached

      your thoughts please?

      regards

      tilly
      Attached Files

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      • #18
        Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

        Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
        hi nem

        the retracted (if this is correct)original terms and show my address as:

        Name
        my full address as it appeared on citi and opus card satements

        please see the copies attached

        your thoughts please?

        regards

        tilly
        OK I see the notation of pages 1-5 did you get 5 pages of Ts & Cs?

        It's the address on the Citi Agreement that is important and that you say is correct.
        Also was that address correct when Opus inherited the Citi accounts?
        Do you have a full set of Citi Ts & Cs ?

        nem

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        • #19
          Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

          Originally posted by nemesis45 View Post
          OK I see the notation of pages 1-5 did you get 5 pages of Ts & Cs?

          It's the address on the Citi Agreement that is important and that you say is correct.
          Also was that address correct when Opus inherited the Citi accounts?
          Do you have a full set of Citi Ts & Cs ?

          nem
          hi nem

          the name and address is correct on the citi and opus terms

          the full set of docs have been loaded last week on the thread

          please advise if you can view them?

          thanks

          tilly

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          • #20
            Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

            Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
            hi nem

            the name and address is correct on the citi and opus terms

            the full set of docs have been loaded last week on the thread

            please advise if you can view them?

            thanks

            tilly
            I'll have a look back asap having some problems with st

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            • #21
              Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

              hi

              i can upload again if you wish?

              thanks

              tilly

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              • #22
                Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
                hi

                i can upload again if you wish?

                thanks

                tilly
                Hi sorry we are in the teeth of a storm couple of power cuts and internet failures.
                I'll get back later hopefully.

                nem

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                • #23
                  Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                  hi nem

                  do you still have a roof?

                  did you manage to view all of the docs please?
                  thanks

                  tilly

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                  • #24
                    Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                    Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
                    hi nem

                    do you still have a roof?

                    did you manage to view all of the docs please?
                    thanks

                    tilly
                    Roofs OK Large greenhouse is scrap and fences all over the place.

                    The two versions of the agreements 1. Citi. 1. Opus (New Day Cards).

                    The Citi agreement has the correct address for when the card was applied for correct?
                    Did you have any change of address at any point during the life of the agreement?
                    If so is the address on the Opus agreement correct.

                    Is it correct that you did not receive any new agreement when New Day Cards took over the Citi accounts?
                    What ideas do you have for your defence?

                    nem

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                    • #25
                      Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                      Originally posted by nemesis45 View Post
                      Roofs OK Large greenhouse is scrap and fences all over the place.

                      The two versions of the agreements 1. Citi. 1. Opus (New Day Cards).

                      The Citi agreement has the correct address for when the card was applied for correct?
                      Did you have any change of address at any point during the life of the agreement?
                      If so is the address on the Opus agreement correct.

                      Is it correct that you did not receive any new agreement when New Day Cards took over the Citi accounts?
                      What ideas do you have for your defence?

                      nem
                      hi nem

                      please read after ###

                      The Citi agreement has the correct address for when the card was applied for correct?###yes
                      Did you have any change of address at any point during the life of the agreement?###no
                      If so is the address on the Opus agreement correct.###the address on the opus is the original address on the citi card agreemnent, i have never moved

                      Is it correct that you did not receive any new agreement when New Day Cards took over the Citi accounts?###yes, do you not think that the new day cards(opus) agreement is just retracted
                      What ideas do you have for your defence?###i dont really know, that i never signed or received an agreement with opus? - will they just counter by saying that as i continued to use the card, that was a form of acceptance?

                      thanks

                      tilly

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                      • #26
                        Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                        Originally posted by tillydog123 View Post
                        hi nem

                        please read after ###

                        The Citi agreement has the correct address for when the card was applied for correct?###yes
                        Did you have any change of address at any point during the life of the agreement?###no
                        If so is the address on the Opus agreement correct.###the address on the opus is the original address on the citi card agreemnent, i have never moved

                        Is it correct that you did not receive any new agreement when New Day Cards took over the Citi accounts?###yes, do you not think that the new day cards(opus) agreement is just retracted
                        What ideas do you have for your defence?###i dont really know, that i never signed or received an agreement with opus? - will they just counter by saying that as i continued to use the card, that was a form of acceptance?

                        thanks

                        tilly
                        The New Day Opus Ts & C's dont seem complete to me, do the pages all tie up numerically or are there discrepancies, my feeling is that if the have sent you an agreements T's & C's for an Opus account now then a new agreement should have been sent at it's inception if you have never received or seen the alleged T's & C's prior to the ones now supplied you cannot agree that they are applicable i.e. you have no knowledge of them.

                        nem

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                        • #27
                          Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                          hi nem

                          thanks for your reply

                          there are 5 pages of tcs for the opus card

                          they do seem to be consecutive , 1 to 5

                          ok so my defence is that i never received the original tcs

                          how should i word this in my defence? do i quote any acts etc?

                          do i try to get another set aside or do i go for an appeal please?

                          thanks

                          tilly

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                          • #28
                            Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                            [QUOTE=tillydog123;595511]hi nem

                            thanks for your reply

                            there are 5 pages of tcs for the opus card

                            they do seem to be consecutive , 1 to 5

                            ok so my defence is that i never received the original tcs Yes you cannot accept the Opus alleged T's & C's as you have never received any such document in the past, nor have you ever signed such an agreement.

                            how should i word this in my defence? do i quote any acts etc? Easiest way to do your defence is looking at some other threads with defences on them it will give you a clearer picture of format and wording than me trying to explain it here.

                            do i try to get another set aside or do i go for an appeal please? Set aside imo, appeal is going to be costly.

                            nem

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                            • #29
                              Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                              hi nem

                              thanks so far

                              i have just opened my post and i am now somewhat confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                              i have a letter from hoist portfolio holding 2 limited stating that 'mkdp has assigned all of its respective rights title and interest for my account to hoist portfolio holding 2 ltd effective 19-10-15'

                              the amount claimed now is 5032.20

                              so as there is a ccj, hoist has bought this debt as it sees it as more enforceable?

                              not sure what to do now, please help!

                              thanks

                              tilly

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                              • #30
                                Re: Court Claim - MKDP LLP / Citi Cards Opus Cards - 30-3-2015

                                Hi Tilly

                                You have already been through a set aside but not attended the hearing or filed a defence and it's been chucked out. IMO it's not going to be accepted again. The agreements don't look bad, there is the original citi card agreement and the terms as varied when it switched to opus, and I don't see an actual defence against the claim even if you did get it set aside. You wouldn't have had to sign any agreement with Opus, the Citicard accounts were just moved over (October / November 2011) and you'd have had a letter about it at the time with a little booklet of terms.

                                I would be applying to the court to vary the judgment (N245) and ask the court to set payment by installments rather than wait for enforcement action from the judgment holder.

                                Unless you deny ever having had a citicard then I think that is the only option you have left now.

                                Sorry xx

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