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  • #91
    Re: Court claim for overdraft

    The DCA has wrote me a letter for payment however the case is still stayed. On what basis do I ask the court to strike out? Non compliance of CPR 18?

    Originally posted by sloane82 View Post
    Get your particular's in order, they'll try to throw, out your case, as your particular's are not by CPR 31.14 but if you have good information to prove, ie Oliver Foster Burnell case. Unfair term's in consumer contract regulation's etc, breach of contract, etc etc etc, put load's of law's, you have a good case. Also contact Howlett Clarke Solicitor's and people. On hear and never give up you can and want to win, never back down. And hope for the best, i want you to win your case, good luck, and all the best.

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    • #92
      Re: Court claim for overdraft

      The DCA has wrote me a letter for payment however the case is still stayed. On what basis do I ask the court to strike out? Non compliance of CPR 18?

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      • #93
        Re: Court claim for overdraft

        CPR ruling 18.1 -2 and get more, time to check out, what evidence, you have also throw the Oliver Foster Burnell case, and the unfair term's in consumer contract regulation's 1999, check the Oliver Foster Burnell case, and other rulling's, i'll check your paperwork, how much does the bank owe you, also check the statute limitation's act 1980, and appeal, statute barred notice's, by appealing, as you have wrote, lot's of letter's.

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        • #94
          Re: Court claim for overdraft

          The DCA has wrote me a letter for payment however the case is still stayed.
          Has the DCA said they will apply to the court to lift the stay ? Have they sent you a copy of the agreement ? or is it just a general chasing letter ?
          #staysafestayhome

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          • #95
            Re: Court claim for overdraft

            Hi who was the, overdraft fee's with? and for how much for?

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            • #96
              Re: Court claim for overdraft

              Originally posted by pawlik View Post
              The DCA has wrote me a letter for payment however the case is still stayed. On what basis do I ask the court to strike out? Non compliance of CPR 18?
              Did you send a Part 18 request for further information? Like a CPR 31.14 request, a Part 18 can also be enforced with an N244 which has been mentioned above. Like Part 31, Part 18 of the CPR does not apply to small claims so that can be an argument to oppose your application, unless it was over £10k, it's not obvious on this page how much the value of the claim is, but there are few overdrafts over £10k.

              If the claimant did not reply to your defence, the case did not proceed further and did not get allocated to any track so that's the other side of the argument. However, if you are applying for strike out, it wouldn't be on the basis of non compliance with your Part 18 request (if that's what you meant).

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              • #97
                Re: Court claim for overdraft

                Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
                Has the DCA said they will apply to the court to lift the stay ? Have they sent you a copy of the agreement ? or is it just a general chasing letter ?
                The DCA just sent me a general letter for Payment. No documents have been provided and no mention of applying to court to lift the stay. I just wanted to be sure that I fill in the N244 correctly for non compliance of CPR Part 18 request for further information.

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                • #98
                  Re: Court claim for overdraft

                  Pawlik - do you have your statements from the period when the charges took you over the OD Limit?

                  On this part 18 thing - did you actually send a part 18 request ? If so can you link me to it or post it up pls.
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                  • #99
                    Re: Court claim for overdraft

                    If its a small claim then part 18 will not apply (see CPR 27.2) and therefore theres little there to bite on really. Focus on fighting them on the poiints you can win on, not the points where you cant would be my advice.
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                    • Re: Court claim for overdraft

                      Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
                      Pawlik - do you have your statements from the period when the charges took you over the OD Limit?

                      On this part 18 thing - did you actually send a part 18 request ? If so can you link me to it or post it up pls.
                      @Amethyst @pt2537

                      I do have the statements that took me over the agreed charges however the Original bank has refunded all the charges after I made a complaint shortly after I submitted my defence to the court.

                      Here is my CPR 18 Letter I sent below


                      CPR18 Request for further information.

                      On the XX July 2015, I received the Claim Form in this case issued by you out of the Northampton County Court.
                      I confirm having returned my acknowledgement of service to the court in which I indicate my intention to contest your entire claim.

                      Prior to the issue of proceedings I had delivered a request for the production of the Agreement referred to in the Particulars of Claim, and on which you intend to rely. That request was ignored.

                      Please treat this letter as my request made under CPR18 for the disclosure and the production of a verified and legible copy of each of the following documents mentioned in your Particulars of Claim and is made by way of Service upon You:

                      1.The agreement, including the specific Terms at the point the alleged Agreement was made and any subsequent changes. You will appreciate that in an ordinary case and by reason of the provisions of CPR PD 16 para 7.3, where a claim is based upon a written agreement, a copy of the contract or documents constituting the agreement should be attached to or served with the particulars of claim and the originals should be available at the hearing. Further, that any general conditions incorporated in the contract should also be attached.
                      2. The deed of assignment
                      3.The notice of assignment
                      4.The default warning letter
                      5.The default notice

                      6. I deny any indebtedness to the Claimant but particularly deny they are due statutory interest on the alleged amount of £2988 and as such I request full disclosure of the amount the Claimant alleges to have paid for this alleged debt.

                      7. Also, your Particulars of Claim state the action is brought for Breach of Agreement, yet you have failed to identify the specific Statutory Instrument you have commenced proceedings under. Therefore, I would be request details of the Statutory Instrument under which you have brought proceedings.

                      You should ensure compliance with your CPR 18 duties and ensure that the documents I have requested are copied to and received by me within 7 days of receiving this letter. Failure to produce each and every document referenced within the Particulars of Claim (detailed above) will result in an Application to the Court for an Order of Disclosure.

                      Your CPR 18 duties extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for the originals of the documents I have requested, the better for you to be able to verify the document's authenticity and to provide me with a legible copy. Further, where I have requested a copy of a document, the original of which is now in the possession of another person, you will have a right to possession of that document if you have mentioned it in your case. You must take immediate steps to recover and preserve it for the purpose of this case.

                      Where I have mentioned a document and there is in your possession more than one version of that same document owing to a modification, obliteration or other marking or feature, each version will be a separate document and you must provide a copy of each version of it to me. Your obligations extend to making a reasonable and proportionate search for any versions to include an obligation to recover and preserve such versions, which are now in the possession of a third party.

                      If you require more time in which to comply with this request you must tell me in writing. You must tell me before the time for compliance with this request has expired. In telling me you require more time you must tell me what steps you have taken and propose to take in order to comply with this request and also state a date by when you will comply with this request. In addition your statement must be accompanied with a statement that you agree to an extension of the time for me to file my defence. Your extension of time must be not less than 14 days from the date when you say you will have complied with my request and you must state the new date for filing my defence.

                      If you are unable to comply with this request and believe that you will never be able to comply with this request you must tell me in writing.

                      Please note that if you should fail to comply with this request, fail to request more time or fail to agree to an extension of time for the filing of my defence, I will make an application to the court for an order that the proceedings be struck out or stayed for non-compliance and a summary costs order.


                      Also i sent the letter below after the response from the DCA Solicitors to the CPR 18

                      Dear Sirs

                      I refer to your letter dated XX July 2015 in response to my request made under the provisions of Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 for inspection of the documents mentioned in the particulars of Claim No XXXXXXX.

                      CPR 31.14 states:

                      "a party may inspect a document mentioned in -

                      a)a statement of case


                      Please forward a copy of all the documents mentioned in the Particular of Claim within 7 days.
                      The documents mentioned in the Particular of Claim are required to prepare my defence and, since they haven't been provided, I would like you to agree to a 28 day extension as allowed by CPR 15.5, to file a defence.
                      Restons is also reminded that it should have in its possession the documents to support the claim prior to issuing a claim.

                      Yours Faithfully

                      Pawlik


                      Last edited by pawlik; 14th July 2016, 20:01:PM.

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                      • Re: Court claim for overdraft

                        Good info get, your PPI on your loan back and money, back from the company for the inconvenience caused, and have a look, through what, made you go overdrawn and get your money back from, the companies etc any, help just ask, take care.

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                        • Re: Court claim for overdraft

                          [MENTION=6]Amethyst[/MENTION] [MENTION=551]pt2537[/MENTION] [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] xx
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                          • Re: Court claim for overdraft

                            [MENTION=55034]nemesis45[/MENTION] [MENTION=87380]Diana M[/MENTION] ?? xx
                            Debt is like any other trap, easy enough to get into, but hard enough to get out of.

                            It doesn't matter where your journey begins, so long as you begin it...

                            recte agens confido

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                            I can be emailed if you need my help loading pictures/documents to your thread. My email address is Kati@legalbeagles.info
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                            • Re: Court claim for overdraft

                              Originally posted by Kati View Post
                              Has there been a development since the OP's last post on their thread on 14th July?

                              Di

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                                Tagging [MENTION=6]Amethyst[/MENTION]

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