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  • Celestine
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    Going to take a look tomorrow Smith, well done for the summary I asked for

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  • smith
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    Originally posted by smith View Post
    MY PARTNER SHE had an overdraft of around 1k WITH HALIFAX. WE arranged a loan for 16k from lloyds.TO Consolidate OUR DEBTS Part of the overdraft was restricted use and earmarked for repaying the overdraft(1k).
    WE decided that he did not want to keep the loan and cancelled under the provisions of section 68 of the act. However he was unable to reclaim the 1k, as it had already been credited to his overdraft account, he was therefore stuck with the dilemma of repaying this 1k to LLYODS ALL THIS WAS A BOUT 3.8.205 LLYODS PHONED ME UP ASKED WHY WE CANCELLED SO TOLD WE HAVE …THEN THEY SAID WHAT ABOUT THE 1K YOU HAD ADVANCE SO I TOLD THEM TO TAKE IT OUT OF MY ACCOUNT THEY TOOK TO 2 PAYMENTS OF £53
    THEN WE WENT WITH A DEBT MANGMENT COMPANY CALLED BYROM & KEELY IN 0CTOBER 205 THEY WAS PAYING CREDITORS ALL WAS FINE TILL THEY WANTED MORE MONEY TO PAY DEBTS OF QUICKER WE HAVE SOME PAPER WORK OF THEM SHOWING SO IN OCTOBER 207 I LEFT BYROM & KEELEY…BUT WE HAVE PAPER WORK OF THEM SHOWING WHEN CHECKS WAS AND SENT OUT. WHEN WE WAS IN THE DMP LLOYDS PASSED THE ACCOUNT TO ROCKWELLTO COLLECT BMP WAS PAYING THEM after make a 5 token payments of a £1
    Wwhen we left dmp in October 207 a CCA REQUEST WAS SENT 6 /10/ 2008 to Rockwell and never got any thing back of them SO A DISPUTE LETTER WAS SENT TO ROCKWELL AFTER THEY DEFAULTED ON CCA REQUEST NEVER HEARD FROM THEM
    AGAIN TILL FENTON COOPER CAME ON THE SEEN IN SEPT 208
    THEN OUT OF THE BLUE FENTON COOPER SENT ME THIS LETTER REGARDING MY CCA TO ROCKWELL
    fenton cooper

    we refer to your recent correspondence ,the content of which has been noted we enclose a copy of the original agreementas requested in your letter quoting section 77-79 of the consumer credit act 1974 satisfying our obligation..THE DEED OF ASSIGNMENT IS A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTAILDOCUMENT BETWEEN THE VENDOR,PURCHESER &ANY FINANCEIRS WHO MAYBE INVOLVED IN THE SALE & CONSEQUENTLY YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO RECEIVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT .YOU WERE INFORMED OF THE SALE OF THIS ACCOUNT BY MEANS OF LETTER DATED 9 TH NOVEMBER 2006 FROM ROCKWELL DEBTCOLLECTION AGENCY & VENDORS THIS COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT UK LEGISLATION ... WE THEREFORE REQUIRE YOUR FIRM PROPOSALS FOR REPAYMENT TO BE RECEIVED BY 28 NOVEMBER 2008 IF FURTHER RECOVEY ACTION IS TO BE AVOIDED

    THIS LETTER I GOT TODAY SHOWS CONCERNS 28 MARCH 2008 NOT SURE IF IT WAS FROM FENTON COOPER


    THANKYOU FOR YOUR LETTER REGARDING YOUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POSITION .




    HAVEING CONSIDERD YOUR INCOME AND EXPENDITURE WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE £580 PER MONTH ON HOUSEKEEPING APPEARS
    EXCESSIVE.IN VIEW OF THIS CAN YOU PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS AMOUNT BEFORE WE CAN COMMENT ON YOUR TOKEN OFFER OF £1PER MONTH OT SURE IF THIS LETTER WAS FROM FENTON COOPER OR ROCKWELL
    FENTONCOOPER THREATEND LEGAL ACTON
    SO SENT THEM THIS WARNING.
    THIS IS A REQUEST UNDER THE CIVIL PROCEDURE RULES.
    PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE.
    AND THEY BACKED OF NEVER HEARD FROM
    LLOYDS NEVER TOLD US THEY SOLD THE ACCOUNT TO ARROW GLOBAL AS FAR AS WE NEW ROCKWELL WAS COLLECTING ON IT
    THEN WE GOT THE COURT SUMMONS OF ELS COLE SOLICTORS
    THE LEETER IN OUR POST WE NEVER SAW THEM UNTILL ELS COLE SOLICTORS SENT THEM TO US HAFTER I SENT THEM A EMAIL STATING THE ACCOUNTS STAT BARRD THEN THEY SENT THE LETTERS AFTER THEY GOT MY EMAIL

    got till friday dead line

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  • smith
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    bump for help

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  • smith
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    MY PARTNER SHE had an overdraft of around 1k WITH HALIFAX. WE arranged a loan for 16k from lloyds.TO Consolidate OUR DEBTS Part of the overdraft was restricted use and earmarked for repaying the overdraft(1k).
    WE decided that he did not want to keep the loan and cancelled under the provisions of section 68 of the act. However he was unable to reclaim the 1k, as it had already been credited to his overdraft account, he was therefore stuck with the dilemma of repaying this 1k to LLYODS ALL THIS WAS A BOUT 3.8.205 LLYODS PHONED ME UP ASKED WHY WE CANCELLED SO TOLD WE HAVE …THEN THEY SAID WHAT ABOUT THE 1K YOU HAD ADVANCE SO I TOLD THEM TO TAKE IT OUT OF MY ACCOUNT THEY TOOK TO 2 PAYMENTS OF £53
    THEN WE WENT WITH A DEBT MANGMENT COMPANY CALLED BYROM & KEELY IN 0CTOBER 205 THEY WAS PAYING CREDITORS ALL WAS FINE TILL THEY WANTED MORE MONEY TO PAY DEBTS OF QUICKER WE HAVE SOME PAPER WORK OF THEM SHOWING SO IN OCTOBER 207 I LEFT BYROM & KEELEY…BUT WE HAVE PAPER WORK OF THEM SHOWING WHEN CHECKS WAS AND SENT OUT. WHEN WE WAS IN THE DMP LLOYDS PASSED THE ACCOUNT TO ROCKWELLTO COLLECT BMP WAS PAYING THEM after make a 5 token payments of a £1
    Wwhen we left dmp in October 207 a CCA REQUEST WAS SENT 6 /10/ 2008 to Rockwell and never got any thing back of them SO A DISPUTE LETTER WAS SENT TO ROCKWELL AFTER THEY DEFAULTED ON CCA REQUEST NEVER HEARD FROM THEM
    AGAIN TILL FENTON COOPER CAME ON THE SEEN IN SEPT 208
    THEN OUT OF THE BLUE FENTON COOPER SENT ME THIS LETTER REGARDING MY CCA TO ROCKWELL
    fenton cooper

    we refer to your recent correspondence ,the content of which has been noted we enclose a copy of the original agreementas requested in your letter quoting section 77-79 of the consumer credit act 1974 satisfying our obligation..THE DEED OF ASSIGNMENT IS A PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTAILDOCUMENT BETWEEN THE VENDOR,PURCHESER &ANY FINANCEIRS WHO MAYBE INVOLVED IN THE SALE & CONSEQUENTLY YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO RECEIVE A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT .YOU WERE INFORMED OF THE SALE OF THIS ACCOUNT BY MEANS OF LETTER DATED 9 TH NOVEMBER 2006 FROM ROCKWELL DEBTCOLLECTION AGENCY & VENDORS THIS COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT UK LEGISLATION ... WE THEREFORE REQUIRE YOUR FIRM PROPOSALS FOR REPAYMENT TO BE RECEIVED BY 28 NOVEMBER 2008 IF FURTHER RECOVEY ACTION IS TO BE AVOIDED

    THIS LETTER I GOT TODAY SHOWS CONCERNS 28 MARCH 2008 NOT SURE IF IT WAS FROM FENTON COOPER


    THANKYOU FOR YOUR LETTER REGARDING YOUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POSITION .




    HAVEING CONSIDERD YOUR INCOME AND EXPENDITURE WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE £580 PER MONTH ON HOUSEKEEPING APPEARS
    EXCESSIVE.IN VIEW OF THIS CAN YOU PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS AMOUNT BEFORE WE CAN COMMENT ON YOUR TOKEN OFFER OF £1PER MONTH OT SURE IF THIS LETTER WAS FROM FENTON COOPER OR ROCKWELL
    FENTONCOOPER THREATEND LEGAL ACTON
    SO SENT THEM THIS WARNING.
    THIS IS A REQUEST UNDER THE CIVIL PROCEDURE RULES.
    PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE.
    AND THEY BACKED OF NEVER HEARD FROM
    LLOYDS NEVER TOLD US THEY SOLD THE ACCOUNT TO ARROW GLOBAL AS FAR AS WE NEW ROCKWELL WAS COLLECTING ON IT
    THEN WE GOT THE COURT SUMMONS OF ELS COLE SOLICTORS
    THE LEETER IN OUR POST WE NEVER SAW THEM UNTILL ELS COLE SOLICTORS SENT THEM TO US HAFTER I SENT THEM A EMAIL STATING THE ACCOUNTS STAT BARRD THEN THEY SENT THE LETTERS AFTER THEY GOT MY EMAIL
    AND WHEN YOU AT THE PAYMENT HISTORY IT IS STILL THE SAME AS IT WAS IN 205 HAVE NOT TOOK PAYMENTS INTO ACCOUNT AND THEY STATE THEY BOUGHT THE ACCOUNT WITH TITLE AND DEEDS AND THEY OWN MY DATA FOR REPORTING UNDER DATA PROTECTION

    I FEEL HARD DONE BY IN KNOW THERE WAS CHARGES ON ACCOUNT WHEN I TOLD THERE SOLICTOR SHE THERE WASNT ANY THEN THEY SENT THE PAYMENT HISTORY IN POST 155
    Last edited by smith; 16th May 2013, 08:51:AM.

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  • smith
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    and i sent them tomlin order aswell


    and they now i suffer from mental health problems aswell as i told the lady

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  • smith
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    hi got this today

    it only had my name and adress on not my partners

    advise on this please

    bump for help
    Attached Files

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  • FlamingParrot
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    Originally posted by smith View Post
    got this back today
    Dear

    Thank you for your email in respect of the outstanding balance of £1,587.26 owed to our client Arrow Global Limited.

    We note from the details supplied that your income is £1,336.26 and your out goings total to £1,274.75 and not £1,294.75. This would leave you with disposal income of £61.51.

    The recent telephone conversation we had you mentioned monthly repayments of £5.00. Before we refer to our client we ask you to provide us with your offer of repayment for the outstanding balance of £1,587.26. In view of the disposal income our clients will expect a higher offer of repayment.
    A £20 difference! So you are not supposed to have any money left for emergencies, etc. What if you need to fix your boiler, the microwave develops a fault that can electrocute you (happened to me recently!), there is a water leak and you need a plumber, etc. :confused2:

    Greedy bar stewards! :rant: :rant: :rant:

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  • smith
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    Originally posted by Celestine
    Give it another 24hrs Smith x
    got this back today
    Dear

    Thank you for your email in respect of the outstanding balance of £1,587.26 owed to our client Arrow Global Limited.


    We note from the details supplied that your income is £1,336.26 and your out goings total to £1,274.75 and not £1,294.75. This would leave you with disposal income of £61.51.


    The recent telephone conversation we had you mentioned monthly repayments of £5.00. Before we refer to our client we ask you to provide us with your offer of repayment for the outstanding balance of £1,587.26. In view of the disposal income our clients will expect a higher offer of repayment.


    If you wish to make a PPI claim then please contact the original lender Black Horse Finance. This is a separate issue and would need to be taken up directly with them.


    Interest and charges applied by the original lender will not be refunded. See enclosed copy statement and payment history print.

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  • smith
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    hi i have just phone esl solictors to se if they got the email they said yes they got and she said they due course told her only got till friday she said acount is on told but wouldnt do any thing with out informing me
    shall i phone court and arrow global

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  • smith
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    Originally posted by Celestine View Post
    Hi Smith
    The 'pleadings date' is the date the claim was issued against you. (Not the date you received it)
    fingers crossed i have sent tomlin order by email with income and out goings a long with a cover note
    askeing that in cover note intrest charges pppi to be removed as other creditors have done this...

    thanks again Celestine
    Originally posted by smith View Post
    fingers crossed i have sent tomlin order by email with income and out goings a long with a cover note
    askeing that in cover note intrest charges pppi to be removed as other creditors have done tihis


    if they dont acept it shall i put on defence embarsed and hope the judge makes come to an agreement

    thanks again Celestine
    Last edited by smith; 14th May 2013, 11:52:AM.

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  • Celestine
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    Hi Smith
    The 'pleadings date' is the date the claim was issued against you. (Not the date you received it)

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  • smith
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    Re: smith v llyods black horse and arrow global limited belveder

    hi what do pleadings meen please is that the dead line they set on the xtra 25 days

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  • Celestine
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    Hi Smith

    Sorry for the delay. Please find attached a (pretty rushed) Tomlin. :tinysmile_hmm_t2:

    You'll need to fill in the gaps. Shout if you need more help.


    Tomlin Order.doc

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  • FlamingParrot
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    You are in good hands, Smith, PT :yo: and Cel :yo: are the best you can have in terms of consumer credit specialists :first:

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  • smith
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    Originally posted by Celestine View Post
    I can't do it right now, but I can draft you Tomlin later today.
    thankyou very much celestine that will be ok thankyou
    like pt said ill have to put ball in there court this way

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