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Set aside default CCJ - incorrect address and likely statute barred

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  • #16
    Originally posted by name View Post


    So the order will always be reviewed by a judge, because I'm a litigant in person. I'm thinking the claimant will probably consent to set aside under discretionary grounds, but not mandatory grounds because they insisted it was served at the last known address, despite evidence to the contrary. But I'm hoping the judge may read the witness statement and decide it's a mandatory set aside and the claim form needs to be served again. I can then challenge the courts jurisdiction when I acknowledge service.

    Should I give them 2 weeks to reach agreement in a consent order, and then I'll apply to set aside the judgement without consent under CPR 13.2 mandatory grounds and challenge service?
    Will a judge see it as unreasonable that I insist the claimant agrees service wasn't validly effected on the consent order before I sign it?
    Will the costs of the frustrated consent application and application without consent be borne by the claimant if I'm successful?
    Can I convert one application into the other and just pay the fee difference?
    Should I give them 2 weeks to reach agreement in a consent order, and then I'll apply to set aside the judgement without consent under CPR 13.2 mandatory grounds and challenge service?

    I take it they are aware that you are waiting for them to reach agreement?
    Haven't you already sent of the email / application / Witness Statement?

    Will a judge see it as unreasonable that I insist the claimant agrees service wasn't validly effected on the consent order before I sign it?

    Can't tell you what the Judge will think.

    Will the costs of the frustrated consent application and application without consent be borne by the claimant if I'm successful?

    Normally, yes, CPR needs to be followed, the Judge will look at various things to make a decision on that.

    Can I convert one application into the other and just pay the fee difference?

    No, not that I'm aware of.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by echat11 View Post
      I take it they are aware that you are waiting for them to reach agreement?
      Haven't you already sent of the email / application / Witness Statement?
      I sent them the court, but I haven't served them on the claimant yet

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      • #18
        Originally posted by name View Post

        I sent them the court, but I haven't served them on the claimant yet
        O.K. your credit file should have all your addresses in recent times, correct?

        Explain to your previous employer, they should have your correct address, but didn't, thus they have breached data protection principles and you are minded to lodge a complaint with the ICO.

        Page 12 - https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations...e=pdf&patch=23

        Have you sent your previous employer a Subject Access Request?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by echat11 View Post

          O.K. your credit file should have all your addresses in recent times, correct?

          Explain to your previous employer, they should have your correct address, but didn't, thus they have breached data protection principles and you are minded to lodge a complaint with the ICO.

          Page 12 - https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations...e=pdf&patch=23

          Have you sent your previous employer a Subject Access Request?
          What should I ask them to provide in the subject access request?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by name View Post

            What should I ask them to provide in the subject access request?
            Give them a date range, an employee number, evidence you seek from them to prove your case.
            Be 'general' as you can, but in a way that will get you the information you seek. Don't tell them why you want the information.

            https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...ccess-request/

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            • #21
              Originally posted by echat11 View Post

              Give them a date range, an employee number, evidence you seek from them to prove your case.
              Be 'general' as you can, but in a way that will get you the information you seek. Don't tell them why you want the information.

              https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...ccess-request/
              Thank you for that.

              Following my application to set aside, I received an order from the business centre dated 27th of August that the deputy district judge read my application and ordered the claim to be sent to my home court and for the application to be listed for hearing (on notice) and served.

              Is this as expected for CCJ set aside by consent?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by name View Post

                Thank you for that.

                Following my application to set aside, I received an order from the business centre dated 27th of August that the deputy district judge read my application and ordered the claim to be sent to my home court and for the application to be listed for hearing (on notice) and served.

                Is this as expected for CCJ set aside by consent?
                Yes, that's what you wanted, so that you can make your case.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by echat11 View Post

                  Yes, that's what you wanted, so that you can make your case.
                  I've received a letter that the application has been put before a local district judge, and that the judge requires a signed and dated consent order for consideration and approval.

                  The other party's solicitors have not replied to the three times I've written requesting this after agreeing in email to sign a consent order. They've not replied either when I asked for a copy of their complaints policy.

                  My questions: Can I keep communicating with the court and solicitors by email, or should I switch to postal letters?
                  What should I ask the court to do regarding the other party's inaction?
                  What will happen if I cannot provide the court with a consent order and how much time do I have?

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                  • #24
                    a) The other party's solicitors have not replied to the three times I've written requesting this after agreeing in email to sign a consent order. They've not replied either when I asked for a copy of their complaints policy.

                    Who have you been writing to at the company?

                    b) My questions: Can I keep communicating with the court and solicitors by email, or should I switch to postal letters?

                    The Court hasn't said you need to change the 'medium' of communication.

                    c) What should I ask the court to do regarding the other party's inaction?

                    This is where there are procedures to be followed, you should of had the 'consent order' signed by the company before proceeding with the set a side. I don't think the Court can do anything to get matters moving.

                    d) What will happen if I cannot provide the court with a consent order and how much time do I have?

                    You'd have to amend the set a side, pay the full fee. So you proceed as if you never contacted the company. Give the Court a ring see what they suggest.

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