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NEW MONEY CLAIM FORMS / MCOL / HMCTS / Court Claim

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  • NEW MONEY CLAIM FORMS / MCOL / HMCTS / Court Claim

    The Court Service are currently trialling a new version of the MoneyClaim online system. The claim forms that are sent out look rather different to the old blue forms. We're working on a guide to dealing with claims that are issued through the new system with examples of the documents you may receive.

    If you are at all concerned if a claim you have received is genuine, please contact the Court where the claim has been issued or try to log in on the Moneyclaim website with the details given on the claim form.

    Current MCOL:
    https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

    New trial MCOL:
    https://www.gov.uk/make-money-claim


    OLD CLAIM FORM
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    NEW CLAIM FORM ( sorry temp pics until we get a decent copy )

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    “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

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  • #2
    To Respond to a claim issued through the new system you should go to

    https://www.gov.uk/respond-money-claim

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    This then takes you to page where you can enter your claim number

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    IF the claim is on the new system it will take you to the next page, however if your claim was initially brought through the old system it will take you to the old Moneyclaims.gov.uk homepage.
    “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

    Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

    Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

    If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

    Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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    • #3
      IGNORE - just background stuff

      https://www.gov.uk/service-standard-...ey-claims-beta


      I've asked GDS if they have Guidance for Defendants.

      http://www.foundation.org.uk/Events/...cland-Hood.pdf

      https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/int...065556.article

      https://assets.publishing.service.go...e_May_2018.pdf
      “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

      Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

      Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

      If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

      Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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      • #4
        Quite threatening in there appearance.

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        • #5
          First Draft for Claimants.... working on Defendants now.... I have kept it simple, as it is simple .... too simple IMO.... not sure how much I should push home the ' don't do this on a whim it's a legal claim and has consequences ' point... I can see some utterly awful claims coming through.

          This is just to show people the process, it's not a full guide for claimants for bringing a court claim....
          COMMENTS EXCEEDINGLY WELCOME. EVEN IF IT'S THAT IT'S RUBBISH .

          ( added another page as I go through defence process - attached - will put it all to one doc when it's all done )
          Attached Files
          “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

          Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

          Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

          If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

          Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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          • #6
            in case of SHIT:- download.jpg use plain side only

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            • #7
              haha you caught me....
              “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

              Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

              Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

              If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

              Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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              • #8
                I'm wondering whether somewhere in the background they have changed the CPR or got some specific CPR for these new claims.... the first claim we've actually gone through to a hearing with that was brought on the new system ended up with the Judge saying that case law didn't apply in 'this kind of court' …. plus the Acknowledgement of Service part of the new system doesn't even mention 'Acknowledgement' just asks if you want an extra 14 days... have they simply over dumbed it down ? or have they invented some kind of new Judge Judy type court without actually telling anyone ?

                The claimant has to list documents …. can you still ask for those documents under CPR 31.14 or something else?

                or am I just not liking change? lol

                Originally posted by GDS
                In the next 18 months we will.......... Expand our online civil money claims service – and the legal representatives’ version of it - so it can be used by everyone. We will continue to add sections to the service, building it out so that in time it supports cases going to hearing as well as those settling beforehand (which will also allow us to operate paperless civil courts).
                Our next step will be to build further stages of the system, allowing more online negotiation and settlement; upload of evidence; giving judges the facility to decide cases ‘on the digital papers’ but also to ask questions and seek clarification from parties; and also providing the digital underpinnings for cases going to and through hearings.
                “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

                Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

                If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

                Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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                • #9
                  I would have thought the reason the process/forms were changed was so all of these payday loans cases were actually initiated at court with the full set of docs to substantiate their case. .

                  Imagine how much its costing the courts to deal with all this rubbish.pointless & then abandoned cases for £30? Its costing the courts money on the amount of abandoned claims.

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                  • #10
                    I really think that judge got it completely wrong in that case Ame.

                    As far as I can gather, PD51R seems to be the appropriate rules on the new online system.

                    Paragraph 5A suggests the criteria which seems to fit with the initial list of questions you have to answer before filing a claim on the new site.

                    https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/pr...-court-pilot#2
                    Check out some useful guides below

                    A guide to voluntary termination
                    Seting aside a CCJ
                    Completing an N180 Form (Courtesy of Jaguarsuk)

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Rob - it's all very much aimed at settlement or "sent out of the online court" isn't it so basically as soon as it's defended and mediation fails it's back to 'normal' court.

                      Oscillations case is playing on my mind - the judgment was just wrong. We don't lose and I can't see anything we did wrong - I suppose as he said after, the judge just took against him. It's worrying for other cases on similar lines primarily because of the 'doesn't apply in this court' comment and I'd hate to send someone else in with a similar interfamilial dispute on similar grounds and see them lose too because we wrote it off as a narkey Judge.
                      “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

                      Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                      Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

                      If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

                      Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GBExile View Post
                        I would have thought the reason the process/forms were changed was so all of these payday loans cases were actually initiated at court with the full set of docs to substantiate their case. .

                        Imagine how much its costing the courts to deal with all this rubbish.pointless & then abandoned cases for £30? Its costing the courts money on the amount of abandoned claims.
                        That's the hope eventually - at the moment bulk issuers still use the original system - the preaction procedure for debt claims was meant to sort some of it out but it simply doesn't - if a debtor responds with anything other than settlement or "seeking advice" - they just bung a court claim in on day 30 - and of course as they discontinue or get settled before a court hearing majority of the time there's absolutely sod all consequence for them.

                        Feeling a bit ranty today sorry lol xx
                        “We may not win by protesting, but if we don’t protest we will lose. If we stand up to them, there is always a chance we will win.” Hetty Bower

                        Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

                        Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

                        If we have helped you we'd appreciate it if you can leave a review on our Trust Pilot page

                        Find Solicitors offering fixed fees on our sister site - JustBeagle.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
                          Thanks Rob - it's all very much aimed at settlement or "sent out of the online court" isn't it so basically as soon as it's defended and mediation fails it's back to 'normal' court.

                          Oscillations case is playing on my mind - the judgment was just wrong. We don't lose and I can't see anything we did wrong - I suppose as he said after, the judge just took against him. It's worrying for other cases on similar lines primarily because of the 'doesn't apply in this court' comment and I'd hate to send someone else in with a similar interfamilial dispute on similar grounds and see them lose too because we wrote it off as a narkey Judge.
                          Yes that's true, although be careful there are also online county court pilots in selected areas and is by invitation only but not mandatory and I think you have to be legally represented to at least qualify - see CPR 51S

                          https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/pr...t-online-pilot

                          As for oscillation's case that is deeply worrying but I don't think we have heard back from him have we? He's not replied since giving us an update so we don't know the full details and his time is running out to appeal. Unfortunately, as you will know, there is no way of rescinding absurd decisions other than by way of appeal.
                          Check out some useful guides below

                          A guide to voluntary termination
                          Seting aside a CCJ
                          Completing an N180 Form (Courtesy of Jaguarsuk)

                          - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                          LEGAL DISCLAIMER
                          Please be aware that this is a public forum and is therefore accessible to anyone. The content I post on this forum is not intended to be legal advice nor does it establish any client-lawyer type relationship between you and me. Some of the content I post may include example wording, letters, or other similar responses but they are intended purely for informational and educational purposes. Using some or all of the content I post may fail to meet your needs that is specific to your situation. Therefore any use of my content is at your own risk and I cannot be held responsible in any way. It is always recommended that you seek independent legal advice and you can do this through the Law Society's Find a Solicitor database, by contacting your local Citizen's Advice Bureau or legal advice centres such as LawWorks. You may also be able to seek legal advice from your local university who may run a free (but limited) legal advice clinic to members of the public.

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