Latest Update on PPI Judicial Review - NO APPEAL - get your claims in......

[Mr Muffet]

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No one there today, I asked on CAGif anyone would be there but no positives. SO yip, ear to ground. Otherwise we;ll have to catch up tmw lunchtime.

Sadly, our one PPI expert, alanalana, is not around at the moment. Whilst he is keeping a keen eye on things from afar he is unable to take an active roll in PPI matters or go to the hearing.

[Amethyst]

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I'm becoming more confused with what the BBA are appealing here.

In short, can I ask the following:

What is it the BBA are appealing... i.e. That the FSA do not have the power to reinforce rules prior to their establishment?
If this is the case, why have cases post 2005 (after the FSA was formed) been placed on hold also?

If the BBA win the JR, does this mean that anyone who has been mis-sold the insurance pre or post 05 are unable to get their monies back?

My understanding.

If the BBA win then people can still claim. Just the claim will be based only on ICOB/ICOBS in force at the time they took out the policy, NOT on the further protection offered by the principles (thus the guidance given by the FSA as that is based on both principles and ICOB/S) ....if you look at the case studies from 2008 from the FOS is shows quite clearly (on case study B I think) that FOS judge claims under ICOB/S AND the Principles - some cases would pass on ICOB/S but fail on principles - so THOSE cases should be the only ones on hold now.


Think ICOB is 2005 to 2008 and ICOBS 2008 onwards (but check in the handbook)


Also I think the banks are misrepresenting the JR as though if they win no one can claim, as obviously that is in their best interests.

[leclerc]

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ICOB Review
ICOB review that was ongoing then in 2007

[Amethyst]

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I spent my bank charges on a new kitchen and thoroughly regret it now (I don't even live in that house any more lol), though it was back in '06 before I knew better.

[leclerc]

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March 2008. PS07/24(PDF link in this link)
PS07/24: Insurance selling and administration - Feedback on CP07/11 and final rules

[Chip Tuesday]

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what the BBA are arguing against is the following:

1. The FSA's Policy Statement 10/12
2. The FOS's "guidance" on thier website

1. The FSA's PS10/12, if quashed, would leave all complaints as they were pre-1st December 2010.

2. If the FOS were ordered to remove their "guidance" (which isn't actually guidance, hence the quote marks) then so be it, the Ombudsman still afterall has the power to decised cases in a way that seems fair to the Ombudsman considering all the facts of the case. Removing the online resource would not necessarily change the FOS's opinions of the banks at all, it may just alter the phrasing used by applicants looking to take their cases to the FOS.

As a certain Meerkat would say, simples!

CT

[The Debt Star]

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I spent my bank charges on a new kitchen and thoroughly regret it now (I don't even live in that house any more lol), though it was back in '06 before I knew better.

oh I've SO been there and done that!

[Chip Tuesday]

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Anyone got lunchtime updates yet?

CT

[Amethyst]

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Nope sorry, but I know the guy that is there this morning has an important appt at 2 so he may be waiting until that is out of the way. Soon as I hear anything I'll let you know. Frustrating I know. Nothing across the boards/twitter at all so far.

[s14lhp]

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"Down the royal courts for the BBA v FSA judicial review. feeling from FSA press office is reserved judgement" Twitter

[leclerc]

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"Down the royal courts for the BBA v FSA judicial review. feeling from FSA press office is reserved judgement" Twitter

We read the same thing

[Chip Tuesday]

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ha ha, I started following that feed this morning!

CT

[Amethyst]

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It is very frustrating from this end, I hope we will have something before the close of play today but I can't promise anything as I'm basically just waiting by the phone, so yes if you spot anything twitter/fb/other sites please feel free to post on here (quoting the source naturally) as there's around 80 people constantly watching this thread for news.

[leclerc]

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I think we are all on twitter and probably google every so often using the news search facility plus facebook site as well......I think there are a number of potential stalkers on this thread so let's hope the police are not on here too, lol!

[Amethyst]

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I am suprised more CMCs havent attended considering the potential affect on their business, but then I guess they may want to keep any info to themselves to give them an advantage, who knows.