Cabot Financial UK Ltd

[meellis]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

I think all of these entities move the assets around depending on what suits them. Doubt if its legal but nobody seems bothered, they have probably re-financed the same assets in the different entities and people are aware of it but again nobody seems bothered.

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

Surely if they can not show that the account was sold to 'the cabot group' they are stuffed .

Of course a quick search of the fca register shows no results for "the cabot group" either.

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

Surely if they can not show that the account was sold to 'the cabot group' they are stuffed .

Incidentally I was looking at my online backups yesterday so will have to check but it appears that the accounts were sold to Cabot Financial (europe) ltd , at least mine were . These were in 2012 and have both been acknowledged as UE due to no agreement .

I suspect that they will discontinue some of these claims correct the paperwork and then possibly try to recommence proceedings at a later date in the hope that the hapless victim will not challenge it .

CF Europe Ltd is an Authorised company.

As far as I can see any company or group of companies can shift its assets around the group.

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

Surely if they can not show that the account was sold to 'the cabot group' they are stuffed .

That won't help unless 'the cabot group' are also the claimant.

M1

[Berniethebolt]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

Surely if they can not show that the account was sold to 'the cabot group' they are stuffed .

Incidentally I was looking at my online backups yesterday so will have to check but it appears that the accounts were sold to Cabot Financial (europe) ltd , at least mine were . These were in 2012 and have both been acknowledged as UE due to no agreement .

I suspect that they will discontinue some of these claims correct the paperwork and then possibly try to recommence proceedings at a later date in the hope that the hapless victim will not challenge it .

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

If the assignee is not the claimant they're in a bit of bother.

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

So originial poc (claimant CF UK) says

Assigned to the claimant on ...


Amended poc (claimant CF Europe (or what ever))

Assigned to the claimant on ...



So we have 2 sets of POCs furnished with a statement of truth both claiming the assignment was to the claimant yet the claimant is 2 different firms ?

That's a bit of a problem i'd say.

M1

There's another variation now " the account was assigned to /purchased by the Cabot Group on....................

nem

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

So originial poc (claimant CF UK) says

Assigned to the claimant on ...


Amended poc (claimant CF Europe (or what ever))

Assigned to the claimant on ...



So we have 2 sets of POCs furnished with a statement of truth both claiming the assignment was to the claimant yet the claimant is 2 different firms ?

That's a bit of a problem i'd say.

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

Neither claim mentions assignment yet the claimant is CF UK ?

M1

Just assigned to claimant on....................

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

No such information on either claim.# No Co. No. nor is that latter statement in eveidence.

Perhaps you are looking for specifics that are not in all the claims?

nem



nem

Neither claim mentions assignment yet the claimant is CF UK ?

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

I'm looking for what the POCs say about who the owner of the debt is. The bold part of the example i gave for example.

2. The Claimant, a UK limited compnay with comany number 3757424, is the assignee and legal owner of all rights previously enjoyed by the original creditor in respect of the Account.

As you can see the claimant is the owner. If the claimant is the owner and the claimant changes ......

M1

No such information on either claim.# No Co. No. nor is that latter statement in eveidence.

Perhaps you are looking for specifics that are not in all the claims?

nem



nem

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

I'm looking for what the POCs say about who the owner of the debt is. The bold part of the example i gave for example.

2. The Claimant, a UK limited compnay with comany number 3757424, is the assignee and legal owner of all rights previously enjoyed by the original creditor in respect of the Account.

As you can see the claimant is the owner. If the claimant is the owner and the claimant changes ......

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

It doesn't matter who the solicitor is in your cases where they amended. What matters, is if the assignment statement in the particulars of claim has changed.

M1

What exactly are you looking for MI 1 I will not prejudice the cases that are not on this forum, there's a lot of new data tonight here take a look at that there is a much larger picture.

nem

[mystery1]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

None involve Weightmans.
As said the Particulars of claim are essentially the same.
as the change is purely the name of the claimant.
There is now another point raised this evening re A debt being bought by the Cabot Group.
nem

It doesn't matter who the solicitor is in your cases where they amended. What matters, is if the assignment statement in the particulars of claim has changed.

M1

[nemesis45]

Re: Cabot Financial UK Ltd

I know they're not but i would like to see them if possible. I'm not interested in the cases per se but i just want to check the details pre and post amendment.

E.g.

"Claimant: Cabot Financial UK Ltd
Document/Payments Address: Weightmans LLP

Particulars of Claim:
1. The Defendant entered into a credit agreement described by the origianl creditor as OPUS CREDIT CARD-CREDIT CARD and having account number 000110500000126xxxx ('the Account').
2. The Claimant, a UK limited compnay with comany number 3757424, is the assignee and legal owner of all rights previously enjoyed by the original creditor in respect of the Account.
3. The Defendant is indebted to the Claimant in respect of ths account in the sum of 7175.20
4. The Claimant claims the said sum of 7175.20, plus costs


Amount Claimed: 7175.20
Court Fee: 410
Solicitor's costs: 100
Total Amount: 7685.20"



Now if they amended the claim and that statement is false in the original, that's a problem. If it's unchanged in the amended version then that's a problem.

Clearly it cannot be correct pre and post amendment. If it's the same person that signed both claims they have much explaining to do and i'd be asking the court to refer the matter to the AG.

M1

None involve Weightmans.
As said the Particulars of claim are essentially the same.
as the change is purely the name of the claimant.
There is now another point raised this evening re A debt being bought by the Cabot Group.
nem