rossendale bailiffs

[singledaddy]

Re: rossendale bailiffs

singledaddy, PLEASE keep updating this thread. A friend of mine also has a complaint in with this council regarding another Rossers bailiff and, as bluebottle said, the council are doing their very best to pretend that either there isn't a complaint, or if there is, it's not about the actions of the bailiff. You, having video footage, are in a much stronger position.

One thing I would say, when you write to them, don't forget to title it FORMAL COMPLAINT - and read up on their "listening" policy on the website and hold them to it regarding response times.

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Don't worry I will keep it updated. The more people are made aware of what their capable of the better chance of getting these scumbags where it hurts.

[singledaddy]

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Believe me if I didn't have to pick my son up from school just after this I would've done a whole lot more. And I agree there some of them are very corrupt. Although there are a few I've met that are very good at the job but they are a small minority

[dementedfeline]

Re: rossendale bailiffs

singledaddy, PLEASE keep updating this thread. A friend of mine also has a complaint in with this council regarding another Rossers bailiff and, as bluebottle said, the council are doing their very best to pretend that either there isn't a complaint, or if there is, it's not about the actions of the bailiff. You, having video footage, are in a much stronger position.

One thing I would say, when you write to them, don't forget to title it FORMAL COMPLAINT - and read up on their "listening" policy on the website and hold them to it regarding response times.

df

[bluebottle]

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Pity you didn't scrape the hard edge of your shoe sharply down his shin and then drop-kick the lying toad. The shoe down the shin causes a lot of pain and the drop-kick would have removed him rather quickly.

Yes, Cloggy, there are, unfortunately, some clots in the constabulary down in Devon and Cornwall.

[singledaddy]

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Whence the clotted cream comes?

It seems they also have clots in the constabulary, too.

Haha yes that's the one. I think the bailiff was missing a bit of meat in his pasty as well

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It's Cornwall council

Whence the clotted cream comes?

It seems they also have clots in the constabulary, too.

[singledaddy]

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No tosserdales never supplied me with any of that I requested breakdowns of costs etc but nothing was provided which is why I was reluctant to pay them. They gained entry to a previous address of mine, pushed past me but no proof so I had no leg to stand on

[bluebottle]

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Did Rossendales remove any goods and have they provided a copy of the invoice for the van? Also, have they previously gained peaceable entry, not forced their way in?

[singledaddy]

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Cornwall Council have form for turning a blind eye to Rossendales' behaviour. Copy the raw footage to DVD and send copies to -

CEO, Cornwall Council
Head of Revenue, Cornwall Council
Leader, Cornwall Council
Leader of Opposition, Cornwall Council
Mr S Sawyer, Chief Constable, Devon & Cornwall Police

I suspect that Shaun Sawyer will be very interested to hear his plod's explanation for condoning and failing to deal with unlawful behaviour. His friendship with the bailiff may also result in him having some awkward questions to answer. His actions - or lack of them - may amount to Neglect of Duty.

Send DVD copies also to your ward councillors, MP and Eric "Pie Eater" Pickles.

Thank you for your help :-D much appreciated. I've posted a link to view the video on YouTube. If you can view it do you think its a case to answer or do you think I won't have much hope or luck.

[bluebottle]

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Yes it can be clearly heard me asking him to remove his foot from the door on more than one occasion. Do yoh think I have a case then? Who would be best to vontact first about this?

Cornwall Council have form for turning a blind eye to Rossendales' behaviour. Copy the raw footage to DVD and send copies to -

CEO, Cornwall Council
Head of Revenue, Cornwall Council
Leader, Cornwall Council
Leader of Opposition, Cornwall Council
Mr S Sawyer, Chief Constable, Devon & Cornwall Police

I suspect that Shaun Sawyer will be very interested to hear his plod's explanation for condoning and failing to deal with unlawful behaviour. His friendship with the bailiff may also result in him having some awkward questions to answer. His actions - or lack of them - may amount to Neglect of Duty.

Send DVD copies also to your ward councillors, MP and Eric "Pie Eater" Pickles.

[singledaddy]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE0-...e_gdata_player

[singledaddy]

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This case has similarities with R -v- Tucker [2012] which also involved two bailiffs from Rossendales and who are now minus their bailiff certificates. The appeal judge in R -v- Tucker, ruled that a foot in the door was forced entry and in Rai and Rai -v- Birmingham City Council [1993] a foot in the door was ruled to be forced entry. A debtor is within their rights to use as much reasonable force as necessary to remove a bailiff from their property who has forced entry without lawful authority and refuses to leave. (R -v- Tucker)

Can you be heard telling the bailiff to remove their foot from the door in the video footage you have available? If so, this could be persuasive to a circuit or district judge at the court which issued their certificate to relieve them of their certificate. Video footage often speaks volumes and did so in a case, in Hampshire, during 2012. A Ross & Roberts bailiff had their certificate discharged (cancelled) without a Form 4 being completed and without a court hearing after video footage accompanying other evidence was seen by the district judge at the court which issued their certificate.

Yes it can be clearly heard me asking him to remove his foot from the door on more than one occasion. Do yoh think I have a case then? Who would be best to vontact first about this?

[bluebottle]

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This case has similarities with R -v- Tucker [2012] which also involved two bailiffs from Rossendales and who are now minus their bailiff certificates. The appeal judge in R -v- Tucker, ruled that a foot in the door was forced entry and in Rai and Rai -v- Birmingham City Council [1993] a foot in the door was ruled to be forced entry. A debtor is within their rights to use as much reasonable force as necessary to remove a bailiff from their property who has forced entry without lawful authority and refuses to leave. (R -v- Tucker)

Can you be heard telling the bailiff to remove their foot from the door in the video footage you have available? If so, this could be persuasive to a circuit or district judge at the court which issued their certificate to relieve them of their certificate. Video footage often speaks volumes and did so in a case, in Hampshire, during 2012. A Ross & Roberts bailiff had their certificate discharged (cancelled) without a Form 4 being completed and without a court hearing after video footage accompanying other evidence was seen by the district judge at the court which issued their certificate.

[singledaddy]

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If the police have said and even the sound is on the video, that it was Ok for tossers bailiff to foot in door, it would be woeful for them further down the road.

The police didn't see the video, I mentioned it but the officer laughed it off and said my best option is to pay him up. Like I said he was very pally pally with the bailiff

[bizzybob]

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If the police have said and even the sound is on the video, that it was Ok for tossers bailiff to foot in door, it would be woeful for them further down the road.