Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

That is for County/High Court this is Magistrates. A Statutory Declaration should be allowed and as the issuing Court is at a distance this should be allowed at a Court close to the OP, any monies thus paid should be refunded. There is obviously a good chance this should never have gone to Court in the first instance.

I totally agree with you, PT. DVLA have done this a bit too often. Capita/TV Licensing, too. The other thing to remember with magistrates courts is that the forms used there are completely different to those used in the civil courts.

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

My mistake - sorry. Time to wake up I think!

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

My mistake - sorry. Time to wake up I think!

No problemo, Labmano!

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Regarding Perverting the Course of Justice, the act of not informing someone of proceedings and then obtaining a conviction by default is conducive to the offence of Perverting the Course of Justice. Read the final sentence in Post #11. It is also a breach of Article 6, Human Rights Act (Right to a Fair Hearing). Don't forget that Capita/TV Licensing employees have been caught and convicted of the offence and are either serving community or custodial sentences. Something very wrong is going on at DVLA and it needs nipping in the bud.

Thanks for the correction over the N244 - a stupid mistake.

My take on the rest stands though. The OP moved house and apparently did not make any arrangements for the mail to be forwarded. Unsurprisingly communications from the DVLA would have been sent to the old address and the OP would never received them. As it is, the DVLA yet again claim not to have received them, thus the fine notification was sent to the wrong address.

This would have been very easily resolved at the time without any need for it to be escalated like this - Perverting the Course of Justice is, in my opinion, going way too far.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Thanks for the correction over the N244 - a stupid mistake.

My take on the rest stands though. The OP moved house and apparently did not make any arrangements for the mail to be forwarded. Unsurprisingly communications from the DVLA would have been sent to the old address and the OP would never received them. As it is, the DVLA yet again claim not to have received them, thus the fine notification was sent to the wrong address.

This would have been very easily resolved at the time without any need for it to be escalated like this - Perverting the Course of Justice is, in my opinion, going way too far.

The offence is committed, but the probability of prosecution of those responsible whilst a corrupt government is in office is remote. However, stranger things have happened and I do know that the 95% of serving police officers who are honest and sick to the back teeth of what is going on are forging ahead with some very major investigations, despite attempts to stop them, and a number of people in very high places are not only panicking, but absolutely crapping themselves, also, because it will only be a matter of time before they get a knock on the door - or should that be a battering ram or chainsaw through the door - at 6.00 am in the morning and a load of hairy-arsed coppers stomping all over their homes asking them some very awkward questions.

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

The offence is committed, but the probability of prosecution of those responsible whilst a corrupt government is in office is remote. However, stranger things have happened and I do know that the 95% of serving police officers who are honest and sick to the back teeth of what is going on are forging ahead with some very major investigations, despite attempts to stop them, and a number of people in very high places are not only panicking, but absolutely crapping themselves, also, because it will only be a matter of time before they get a knock on the door - or should that be a battering ram or chainsaw through the door - at 6.00 am in the morning and a load of hairy-arsed coppers stomping all over their homes asking them some very awkward questions.

With the exception of the first sentence, what has this post got to do with the issue in hand?

Don't answer that, let's get back to the thread and see what happens re the Statutory Declaration tomorrow.

[charitynjw]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

.............any monies thus paid should be refunded.................

Plus interest & out-of-pocket expenses?

[ploddertom]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Don't answer that, let's get back to the thread and see what happens re the Statutory Declaration tomorrow.

Have we been at the falling down water - tomorrow is Saturday!

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Have we been at the falling down water - tomorrow is Saturday!

I was, of course, referring to the draft Stat Dec the OP may be drafting tomorrow, and asking for our opinion on.

(Please get me out of this somehow!!!!!!)

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[charitynjw]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I was, of course, referring to the draft Stat Dec the OP may be drafting tomorrow, and asking for our opinion on.

(Please get me out of this somehow!!!!!!)

:beagle::beagle::beagle::beagle:

(When in doubt use loads of smilies to disguise your cock up!)

Maybe OP's going to Tesco-Law (they stay open late on Saturdays!)

:okay:(I'm trying for you, labman!)

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

With the exception of the first sentence, what has this post got to do with the issue in hand?

Don't answer that, let's get back to the thread and see what happens re the Statutory Declaration tomorrow.

Do you mean Monday? Today is Friday. The only hearings on Saturdays are charge courts and, then, only in the London area, some metropolitan boroughs and some of the larger provincial cities.

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I was, of course, referring to the draft Stat Dec the OP may be drafting tomorrow, and asking for our opinion on.

(Please get me out of this somehow!!!!!!)

:beagle::beagle::beagle::beagle:

(When in doubt use loads of smilies to disguise your cock up!)

Love the bit in small type!

[mike22861]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Thank you for all the advice,
I will do a stautory declaration on monday and I can do it at my local court. I have the template and have filled it out it isnt exactly difficult.

I did have mail forwarding for 3 months and did not receive any forward mail from DVLA The forwarding ceased exactly on 3 months the post office didnt give any leeway but by then I had told every one that needed to know, changed my driving licence details which are on the V5s too I find it incomprehensible that the DVLA cant match 2 databases

I will keep you posted.

Incidentally I have just received a Sorn renewal notice from DVLA for a car I scrapped 18 months ago at an official recycle unit. I telephoned them pointing out their mistake and was told nothing they can do over the phone have to put it all in writing in the meantime I am liable until its sorted. I cant SORN it legally as its fraud as I dont own the vehicle but by sorning it i have 12 months for them to get it sorted they dont exactly help you abide by the rules do they

[bluebottle]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

Thank you for all the advice,
I will do a stautory declaration on monday and I can do it at my local court. I have the template and have filled it out it isnt exactly difficult.

I did have mail forwarding for 3 months and did not receive any forward mail from DVLA The forwarding ceased exactly on 3 months the post office didnt give any leeway but by then I had told every one that needed to know, changed my driving licence details which are on the V5s too I find it incomprehensible that the DVLA cant match 2 databases

I will keep you posted.

Incidentally I have just received a Sorn renewal notice from DVLA for a car I scrapped 18 months ago at an official recycle unit. I telephoned them pointing out their mistake and was told nothing they can do over the phone have to put it all in writing in the meantime I am liable until its sorted. I cant SORN it legally as its fraud as I dont own the vehicle but by sorning it i have 12 months for them to get it sorted they dont exactly help you abide by the rules do they

Did the Approved Treatment Facility (ATF) issue you with a Certificate of Destruction for the car you scrapped?

[labman]

Re: Collectica Threat to attend with Locksmith no previous correspondance

I received a fine for this same offence about two years ago. I wrote a letter to DVLA saying I had notified them, asking them to look back through my history of car ownership to see if I'd ever failed to notify them - they waived the fine.

It is a very common occurrence and I'm sure you'd have challenged it appropriately in a timely fashion had you had the chance.