Morally wrong to eat horses!!!

[Angry Cat]

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Angry Cat
You say that 67% of the population would either not eat horse or prefer not to. That is very very different to thinking it immoral.
There are many things I would rather not do but that doesn't mean it is immoral. Getting married is something I would rather not do but that doesn't mean I think it's immoral

For the avoidance of doubt, I actually started this thread, the title reflects my opinion, obviously.
Post #1, was simply a link to the BBC news but I posted nothing more until post #27.
most of my posts have been links: facts.

At the end of the day it up to each and every individual as to how they interpret the current problem/situation.
However, there will always be some who just wish to eat and eat, just so long as its meat...why not include puppies, after all the chinese eat dogs.
End of.

[gravytrain]

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To be fair there is such a thing as collective morality. if this thread was just asking the question do you think it is moral, then the answer would depend on who was answering. A far more difficult question is, does eating horses fit with the collective morality of our culture in this country, I have to say in my view despite my personal feelings i don't think it does.

[leclerc]

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To be honest, I would eat whatever meat was on offer from cat to dog from crocodile to zebra.
To go off on a tangent, I have tried cannabis but I would not do cocaine or e's simply because I do not like the thought of sniffing powder up my nose and with e's there was a case in Cambridge where a girl died as a result of taking an ectasy tablet and I just wouldn't do it. This afternoon I put pepper in my beer simply because I had the urge to know what effect it would have. I won't do it again cos it has no effect on me. That is why I do not do cannabis, cos it did not do anything for me.

Life is about trying different things and about pushing boundaries and that is kinda my opinion which is why I do not think it is morally wrong to eat horses. I do think AC is stating the blindingly obvious: how much do we really know about where the meat that we buy comes from and whether it is what is described by retailers?

[enaid]

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Well changing subject just a little although maybe moral does come into it.
About 100,000 diary calves are killed every year because they are the wrong sex.
We are not veal eaters as lots think it is cruel or wrong to eat baby cows. I have been on the farm when calves are taken from their mums and it is upsetting to hear them calling one another from different parts of the farm. These are calves that have had a short but good life as they were with their mums and did get to go in the fields etc even though for a short time. That is beef farming though.
Dairy is different male calves are of no use and are too expensive to rear on a dairy farm so are killed at birth.
I find this upsetting not only from the animals point of view but also the fact it is yet again another waste of potential food.
Just my thoughts on another moral issue.

[jon1965]

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Angry Cat FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT I am not some thick DCA nor do I need things like that spelling out to me.

You made a statement which you were trying to use to demonstrate your argument, I merely pointed out the wording was meaningless in this context.


Enaid, the reason I do not eat Veal is nothing to do with baby cows, it is the conditions that they are kept in during their short life, just as I do not eat battery eggs

[enaid]

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Enaid, the reason I do not eat Veal is nothing to do with baby cows, it is the conditions that they are kept in during their short life, just as I do not eat battery eggs

So that makes it a moral issue if I understand you right and that's the opinion of a lot of people.
I do think there are things in place now where calves are indeed having a good life albeit for a short time and veal is being promoted. I know this thread is about horses but being in contact with cows almost every day you get to see what lovely animals they are and great mums.

[jon1965]

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Yes that is one of my moral judgements. However i feel that the Horse issue is not a moral issue but a cultural issue , the British do not in general knowingly eat horse just as they don't knowingly eat Guinea Pig. I appreciate that some people think that Horses are different and should not be eaten and for them that is again a moral judgement.

There are collective morals and personal morals, personally I have no issue with say cannabis use however some of the excuses I have heard for the production I do find morally wrong

[Angry Cat]

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Actually, one can buy rose veal now and a lot of farmers have stopped shooting the male calves because of.

I do eat meat but only rare breed, because they at least do have a better life.

Apologies for going off topic.

[enaid]

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I am sorry too for going off topic, my mind does wander though it's and age thing lol

[Angry Cat]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21495300

[jon1965]

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We are of course lucky to be able to have those moral values. As someone said if it's me or the bunny the bunny is history.
Again I think that is I were starving and someone gave me some veal free of charge (or it was the cheapest food available ) my morals may have to go out of the window

[leclerc]

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Out of interest would donkey be classed as equine DNA? or a Mule? I am asking this because everyone is saying that the test was positive for HORSE DNA and the results are Equine DNA.......is there really a difference? Having just read a definition of equine, it could be zebra as well.

it also includes asses of which clearly there are many

[Angry Cat]

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http://library.sandiegozoo.org/facts...key/donkey.htm

Horses and donkeys on the other hand are much closer to their common ancestor.Zebras and donkeys both arose from a single common ancestor, which evolved from the same ancestor of the modern horse. This occurred in the last 3 million years.

All modern horses belong to a single genus (Equus), as do zebras and donkeys:

Equus caballus (horse)
E. assinus (donkey)
E. zebra (mountain zebra)
and others.

[gravytrain]

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Hmm wonder which are tastiest ?

[leclerc]

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Hmm wonder which are tastiest ?

Do not even tempt me to answer that