Fed up with the bickering

[Celestine]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Sounds to me, with legal knowledge and guts like yours, that you probably made some fellow team members a little *ahem* uncomfortable?!

Remember, it is a cardinal sin to expose any ignorance......so you must be in the wrong somewhere!??

I did a lot of work on Limitations Act back in 06 when I was site team, when I submitted it for approval within team forum, the only comment I got was to be corrected on calling it Statute of Limitations rather than Limitations Act in the thread title!!

Gave me great satisfaction when 3 weeks later, the same LA POC scared off Lloyds TSB on 4k worth of pre 6 yr charges successfully.......

Be great to see some of that brainpower in action over here, welcome xxx

[pt2537]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Sounds to me, with legal knowledge and guts like yours, that you probably made some fellow team members a little *ahem* uncomfortable?!

Remember, it is a cardinal sin to expose any ignorance......so you must be in the wrong somewhere!??

I did a lot of work on Limitations Act back in 06 when I was site team, when I submitted it for approval within team forum, the only comment I got was to be corrected on calling it Statute of Limitations rather than Limitations Act in the thread title!!

Gave me great satisfaction when 3 weeks later, the same LA POC scared off Lloyds TSB on 4k worth of pre 6 yr charges successfully.......

Be great to see some of that brainpower in action over here, welcome xxx

Thanks,

I do not intend on being as overly active as in the early days on the CAG

However, i will do my best to offer advice, and to assist where i can.

I am happy to be challenged, and put right, but i only ask if someone says im wrong on a point of law, please show the case authority for your view so i can read it lol

I had been planning on writing a piece on the cases post carey and how i get round that horrid judgment, i have had a rake of successes on these cases , even where recon agreements are used.

The lenders very rarely get it right, i won a stonker of a case for a client over on the CAG Delfi101 et al vs Weightmans/Phoenix /HFC - ***WON*** - Page 2 - The Consumer Forums and that was post Carey, there is the actual order the judge made. You will always find a fault and remember the lender must produce an "honest and accurate" copy, discredit them and they are stuffed.

So, if i can help anyone please let me know, or drop me a pm and will do my best,

[zhanzhibar]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Hi Pt

The lenders very rarely get it right,

that's true but lately, it also seem to depend on which judge you got for your case, i mean look at the Brandon/Amex case. Its clear Amex were so clearly in the wrong about the DN & yet they win. As LiP its really scary of this unknown because even though we know the consumer law is on our side, some people of the court seem to ignore the law or is that what its all about, one's interpretation of the law rather than what is stated as law.

i won a stonker of a case for a client over on the CAG Delfi101 et al vs Weightmans/Phoenix /HFC - ***WON*** - Page 2 - The Consumer Forums and that was post Carey, there is the actual order the judge made. You will always find a fault and remember the lender must produce an "honest and accurate" copy, discredit them and they are stuffed.

I am glad delfi won his case with Weightman, one parasite I managed to trash.

So, if i can help anyone please let me know, or drop me a pm and will do my best,

would really appreciate it if you could help me on my Amex case coz other than the invalid DN, my other point was no credit agreement signed by me but they keep saying that it is electronic agreement and that I have tick the box o/wise won't be able to carry on & they can't accept the application. I can't seem to find case law on electronic agreement pre CCA 2006, do you have any that I can read?

[pt2537]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Hi Pt

that's true but lately, it also seem to depend on which judge you got for your case, i mean look at the Brandon/Amex case. Its clear Amex were so clearly in the wrong about the DN & yet they win. As LiP its really scary of this unknown because even though we know the consumer law is on our side, some people of the court seem to ignore the law or is that what its all about, one's interpretation of the law rather than what is stated as law.


I am glad delfi won his case with Weightman, one parasite I managed to trash.



would really appreciate it if you could help me on my Amex case coz other than the invalid DN, my other point was no credit agreement signed by me but they keep saying that it is electronic agreement and that I have tick the box o/wise won't be able to carry on & they can't accept the application. I can't seem to find case law on electronic agreement pre CCA 2006, do you have any that I can read?

OK,

There is this real weird idea that you just need to look for the prescribed terms and that it.

WRONG.

Two riders,

1 PT's need to be there

2 They need to be correct.

Most agreements have the prescribed terms, but not all are correct.

Its all about looking at the detail. Finding the faults.

The first thing i do is look at the statements, is the interest rates being applied what they agreement says it should be. Are the terms actually the right ones for your agreement etc

you need to look beyond the "PTs" sometimes,

Delfis case, many of the so called resident experts told me he didnt have a hope, we all know what happened.

Now then, also, they need to show you an agreement, and there is also the small requirements of s62 and 63 to overcome.

I will have a look over your thread and see if there is anything i can do to help

[EXC]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

I actually sat open-mouthed the other day when I saw an ad for HSBC on CAG . Their sole purpose is survival at any cost - including the reasons for which they exist.

[Tools]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Not half as bad as the CMC adverts for lowlifes such as Ismart

[Amethyst]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

I'm going to shift this thread down to the Lamppost (community forums) as its gone a bit beyond ''welcome to beagles''. Hope thats okay with all. I completely utterly understand peoples frustrations and upsets with CAG, as do lots of people here having been through similar, so don;t think I'm moderating anyone, and everyone is very welcome, but contrary to popular opinion, Beagles isn't an anti CAG site. I just feel this would be better being discussed in the the discussion forums rather than the welcome forums xx

[Amethyst]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Oh yes, and do you have a link to DElfi's case, sounds like its worth a read. xx ta.

[pt2537]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Oh yes, and do you have a link to DElfi's case, sounds like its worth a read. xx ta.

im not sure if there is, and if it has much info on it to be honest,

When those who sought to undermine started on at us, we decided to keep the info sparse on CAG for good reason.

I do have all of the pleadings, all of the witness statements, and the judgment is about a week away from transcription as its with Audrey Jones at the moment.

i was in court at the trial and am able to answer any Q's you may have

[frisp]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

PT
I have 2 fairly illegible agreements that both Drydens and Wescot have issued claims (posted in the VIP section). Do you have a skeleton argument that would help me in both these cases?

[Zazen.Warrior]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Without a doubt whoever is responsible for the recent gagging at 'Gag' (like it!) will be watching these forums like a hawk to see who is here and what they are saying.

And they will also be experiencing an excruciating sense of frustration because they cannot 'moderate' here.

Celestine; your post explains why some very credible people who became moderators were suddenly moderators no more.

[F_DCAs]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Looks like the beginning of the end for GAG as a force to be reckoned with is nigh. It's starting to be one thing after another now.

It's depressing and sad to watch some of the best and most prominent people walk off because of the site team's poor treatment of some of its longest-standing users.

I said before that I spent much time to spread awareness of that site, whether it be postings on other forums (notably whocallsme) or on Youtube clips, but I can't in all honesty do that now.

I hope GAG begins a drastic re-think of where it's actually going - and quickly!

[Delfi]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

i was in court at the trial and am able to answer any Q's you may have

Funnily enough I was in court at the same trial :tinysmile_twink_t2:

Another (banned) CAG refugee signs up here.

D

[pt2537]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Funnily enough I was in court at the same trial :tinysmile_twink_t2:

Another (banned) CAG refugee signs up here.

D

Welcome aboard my friend

And what a pleasant day ti was in court back in January, fun watching the othersides counsel realise that she had just had her ass handed her on a plate wasnt it lol

Good to see you here mate, im sure there will be some people wanting to ask questions

you should pop a post in the welcome section where all the new members are posting, its filling up alot

[Delfi]

Re: Fed up with the bickering

Welcome aboard my friend


Good to see you here mate, im sure there will be some people wanting to ask questions

Ta. You know me fella ... I'm not giving up the fight and I promised to help others as part of this whole thing. If I have to do this in spite of the dreadful behaviour of others then so be it.

We've already hurt a lot of these parasites between us - long may that continue.

D