PCN- Gemini

[Rks2020]

Hi all ,

Requesting some help please.

Just received a PCN through the post for from Gemini.
Had parked for a few minutes outside our nursery school to drop little one off to dance lessons on a Saturday afternoon , was in disabled bay.

The area where car was parked belongs to the nursery not LBhealthcare and there are no sign posts indicating that that side of the road is
overseen by Gemini. There are signs opposite LB healthcare which i am well aware of but the side i parked is for the nursery.

The PCN says: " Failure to display a valid blue badge " at LB healthcare.
" the contravention is a Breach of the terms and conditions of use of the facility. Signs are clearly displayed thoughout
the area showing these terms and conditions. "

I know very well that Gemini issue tickets if parked on the side of LBHealthcare but the other side of the side road ,
all nursery staff and parents use.

Should I reply that the ticket issued is not an area controlled by Gemini or ask for contract showing which area of the
road they oversea as there are absolutely no signs on th esid eof the road the car was parked.

Thanks for any help in advance.

[des8]

Have you asked the nursery about this?

Can you post up the PCN (remove name and identifying details, but leave in all dates and times)?

When communicating with Gemini, or posting on here, do not identify the driver

[Rks2020]

Hi,

I just got confirmation that the 2 bays for disabled are council owned from the nursery.
In theory then I would have thought a private parking company cannot issue such a ticket , it would have to be
a traffic warden or police ?

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Thanks

[des8]

That notice is meant for the driver, but presumably they have your name and address as you are the registered keeper.

So you can reply :along these lines:

Dear Sirs,
I am in receipt of your PCN number xxxxxx.

I write to confirm I am the registered Keeper of the vehicle, registration number xxxxxxxxxx.
I have no legal obligation to identify the driver at the time of the alleged incident, and will not be doing so.

Please remove my data from your records.

Yours etc

But they will probably ignore that, so you could just await a Notice to Keeper which will surely come and should be easily defended

If you do communicate with them do not identify the driver.


You have left your name & address exposed on the Parking notice... suggest you remove it

[Rks2020]

Hi Cant seem to edit it , cannot see edit function now can someone delete the attachment or edit it please?

Also I have had confirmation that LB health care parking which is governed by GEMINI is only for their side of the road,
Can GEMINI issue a ticket for parking bay run by the council ? AS the 2 disabled parking bays are owned by the council i have been informed.
Thanks

[des8]

No they can't, unless the council have contracted them (which is unlikely)

You could add another sentence "noting that the vehicle appears to be parked on land not controlled by themselves.
Accordingly if they intend to pursue this matter they will need to produce a copy of their contract with the land owner/occupier
which shows the exact perimeters of the area they manage"

Ensure you do not identify the driver.

[des8]

ULA could you please remove the attachment post 3 as OP has left his name & address visible?

[ULA]

All done des8

[Rks2020]

Thanks to you both .

Do i need to email Gemini direct or do i need to
Reply via their Website ie appeal PCN please ?

Thanks for your help.

[des8]

As their charge notice doesn't give any directions I would use email as that way you have a copy.

[Rks2020]

Ok thanks , have emailed them, will keep you all updated.

[Rks2020]

Hi all,

They have close my enquiry and replied : I advise you to submit an appeal via our website.

[des8]

In that case I would ignore them and await a "notice to keeper"..at which point they will probably make even more errors.

[Rks2020]

Ok , so i just sit tight now.

btw, I emailed the owners of LB health care and they confirmed that their parking is only alongside their building.( side which has Gemini operating )
That the opposite side belongs to nursery. The nursery , think I mentioned earlier informed me that the 2 disabled bays were council owned.

Thanks

[Rks2020]

In that case I would ignore them and await a "notice to keeper"..at which point they will probably make even more errors.

Hi all,

Not received any further correspondence , can they issue a default penalty as they had replied to reply via their appeals section on their website?
just wondering .

Thanks