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**DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

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  • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

    Well done on a job well fought

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    • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

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      • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

        Hello MYSTERY , just to close , this PCN has been running for over 10 months , now its finished , with the help all the team at LegalBeagle , especially Mystery and Kati , they have help me to defeat the cowboys , who were trying to scam money from me amongst probably many other , any if it had gone to court , I am 100% certain i would have won , and i would have asked for costs , but at the end of the day , I've read and learnt plenty . These cowboys send letters out and in most cases have any real evidence or photos of the actual incident ,but hope that a percentage of the people they contact will pay up and they get paid for the price of a stamp . well i was not one of those from first time i received the PCN , i thought it was a joke to be honest ,Free carpark ,3 hours allowed , i was only there 5 minutes , got the PCN charged initially at £60 eventually rose to £175 , thats a good rate of pay for a couple of letters , the parking company even changed the signs ,to include whilst using site facilities , and changed to that on the NTK and not an overstay , they were grasping at straws , luckily though up turned the legal beagles in the shape of Mystery and Kati ,whom guided me with the correct replies act and eventually the parking company must have realised although late , that they were skating on thin ice with no hope of winning with mistakes in paper work galore , and very little proof of any incident occurring , they bought the debt from another company , hoping to get a easy ride , but failed and did a runner with their tails between their legs , I've read on various sites about motorists getting PCN and although some were probably correct , the majority weren't , and its about time that the Government stepped in to either get the cowboys to run their business correctly and fairly or shut them down , they stopped them clamping vehicles ,so no go that step further an shut the B""TARDS down , Thanks again to all concerned and its made me realise that it may seem okay to park ,wether private land or council carpark ,but make sure that you follow the rules on the signs , keep to these rules and if we do ,these so called parking companies will shut down without ant government ruling if they have no punters to scam money off

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        • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

          Hello Mystery, I've checked with Blackpool Court today and MIL have confirmed its been DISCONTINUED , so now thats out of the way , I've been reading up online , and it states on one site that P.A.S Blackpool who sold the supposed debt to MIL , had no right to give my details to them as the were not a sub contractor , and that its possible that i could sue PAS for up to £750. It states that MIL might not have known of these conditions with KADOE , and were probably the innocent party in this . I did state in my emails to MIL that if they dropped the case i wouldnt ask for costs , but that was only from them as i have had no contact with PAS at any time , i don't think it would be easy to get anything from them , but if you don't ask , you don't get , it maybe worth a stamp , would it mean a court case , or would you suggest just to let sleeping dogs lie THANKS again

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          • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

            Seems pretty much like a hard case to win and would almost certainly result in a day out at court.

            I wouldn't suggest it's impossible but it's for someone who is pretty confident they can do it themselves.

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            • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

              hello Mystery , happy new year , still buzzing about discontinued PCN , anyway i have today written to the parking company , as they have breached the personal data (KADOE) at DVLA , I have also done the same to DVLA , but no reply as yet , I will also be contacting the other company involved , in the near future, as they have also breached it , but will wait till reply from DVLA before i do that , Even if it costs me money , i need to do this ,its not right these cowboys ride roughshod over the motorist ,and maybe if successful it my help other less fortunate people , Im not holding my breath but if you don't try you don't get anything , ill let you no outcome with further updates THANKS

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              • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

                hello Mystery 1 , hope you are well , don't no if i need to start new thread or just continue were we left off as its still to do with that ,anyway will just bring it up to date ,after the discontinue of my case , i asked about data breach ,well i contacted DVLA asking for info regarding access by PAS and they were slow at answering but kept on with mail and emails and got replies x 2 stating that i would receive replies within 10 working days or a reply informing why the delay , time moved on and I then received a reply from Steve Hopkins ,complaints team at DVLA , emails to and from ,I informed him of what had gone before and he then informed me that PAS had sent me the first invoice but they had put the wrong reason for it , it stated overstay but should have been not using facilities , and that they could pass my data to MIL ( approx 4 months later ) as they were working for them, i told DVLA it was a lie ,MIL had bought the debt , and the signs did not not state whilst using faculties , and i had pictures prove ,as they had been changed after the incident . The signs did state when my vehicle was there in small writing that vehicles needed to be booked in or registered at the hotel reception . DVLA then asked me could they have copies of the pictures which i duly sent , with a reply asking was i booked in , i said no only lived less than 2 miles away and didn't want to stay the night , PAS stated my vehicle was on site for 4mins 20 secs , so i told dvla well in the 10 mins grace to read signs act . DVLA then contacted the IPC who PAS are members of and the have looked in to it and 10 mins grace is not in writing but the 4mins 20 secs i was on site should have been plenty . well today i have received a detailed email from DVLA stating that the officer at the carpark had wrongly ticketed ( postal) my vehicle and he no longer works for the company ( probably sacked) and that PAS have removed my data from there system . i have replied to DVLA , stating that thats no concern of mine and i am still upset that they access and breached my details without the necessary reason , and what action have DVLA taken against these cowboys for doing what they want , they had over 4 months to cancel but carried on and eventually sold to MIL . The main point to DVLA was to find out about the breach but they haven't included that in there response so i am waiting for this info and have told them i need this , i have also told DVLA that i will be taking legal advice on the breach and will proceed with this when i get the answers , and i will be looking for between £250/£750 damages for stress , expenses ect and PAS can contact me to discus the problem they have caused rather than proceeding thro county court ,do you think i have any chance , am I wasting everbodies time and what is the best way to proceed THANK YOU

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                • Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

                  Pass it in front of the ICO and see what they say. If they agree that it was a breach then take action. Could be both PAS, for selling, and MIL, for using. MIL had been told by the DVLA that they should not be processing information that had been given under KADOE and had promised to drop any claims that were pending. Looks like they lied.

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                  • Originally posted by ostell View Post
                    Re: **DISCONTINUED!!** PCN received from parking cowboys advice needed

                    Pass it in front of the ICO and see what they say. If they agree that it was a breach then take action. Could be both PAS, for selling, and MIL, for using. MIL had been told by the DVLA that they should not be processing information that had been given under KADOE and had promised to drop any claims that were pending. Looks like they lied.
                    hello , i am still on the case , who is the ICO , as i stated in my last email ,DVLA have been in touch with IPC and they have admitted (PAS) ticket should not have been issued in the first place ( inexperienced officer) sacked him , removed my data from the files , and did not show reasonable cause to access DVLA system for keeper details . I have since emailed PAS and MIL , and i have received un to now one reply from each ,and I am awaiting their next lie to arrive , PAS first , i stated that they had breached DATA , and expect compensation for breach of data £500 plus £35 costs if it goes to court , and if they didn't settle in the 14 days of email being sent , i would be applying at county court for a summons against them on the 20th September 2018 without further notice , the reply to that stated that they cancelled the ticket in January 2017 so with the debt sold to MIL not complete they had not breached DATA , well i have replied to that and stated I have written confirmation from PAS ( SELLER) and MIL (buyer) dated JULY 2016 that they both had confirmed bought and sold and any monies should be forwarded to MIL , separate envelopes same postmark ect . The Email sent to MIL stated similar and that they had breached the DATA act 1998 with threatening me using the data bought from PAS, they had no written permission from DVLA to BUY the debt and PAS had no right to sell it as per KODOE contract , the reply was a letter worded ( identical ) to one of theirs over 12 months ago stating outstanding debt £175 , i gave them same offer as PAS settle within 14 days of mail (by the 20th) £500 plus £35 if it goes to court ,again about the summons still waiting for reply , if this goes to court what how do i go about it , i have all letters etc sent and received so plenty to go at THANKS

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                    • Ostell, thanks for reply ,what or who are ICO, anyway I have been in touch with the Money Claim GOV , and raised 2 summons against the 2 parking companies , they have been delivered and one of them asked for the extra 14 days , that was about 5 days after they received it , and the second one asked for the extra another 4 days later, the court have allowed this , I have asked for £500 plus court cost £35 from both , which i think is reasonable for the BREACH . The postman has delivered (friday) a letter from one of the companies stating that they would like to settle with an offer of £250 plus court costs to save going to court, I have declined this stating i want the full amount . With them making the offer does this mean they have admitted the BREACH or ? Thanks

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                      • ICO = Information Commissioner's Office If they rule it is a breach of data protection it will help your case

                        Does the offer have a title of Without Prejudice.? If not then you can show it to the court as and indication that they have admitted the matter and it's only a matter of the amount. Find some case for similar reasons (I know there are some somewhere) and use these as a basis for your amount.

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                        • Ostell, thank you again for your quick response , the letter they sent does NOT have without prejudice, I replied yesterday , and said that i wanted the amount I put in summons , and said to them to inform me the day of letter , i have had nothing as yet , but they are long winded , it wouldn't surprise me if they put a cheque in the post with the full amount in the next couple of days , if that happens ,i will then contact the other defendant , stating the facts ,and hopefully they will do the same , they will have to travel about 300 miles as county court will be local to me , none of these cowboys should be getting away with threats ect , the have Breached the Data and must accept the claim , I have all proof in the letters , and the one who made the offer , contacted me about 4 weeks ago and as much as said that although I wouldn't like there answer they don't think they breached as the ticket was cancelled in JAN 2017 and the sale to the other company hadn't completed then , but i have letters from both that one had sold and the other bought dated JULY 2016 and any monies due should be paid to the buyers , so that was a lie , i was reading in Parking Prankster ,that these companies were being taken to court for breach and asking and getting £750 for 1 breach , I've had my data used by the buyer 5 times , is that when you say similar reasons THANKS

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