ULEZ - PCN

[RJH]

Just looking for a bit of advice - came back from a break today to a PCN from another trip to London made recently for one evening.

Now, I know all about the Congestion Charging Zone, but the ULEZ is something I wasn’t familiar with until I got this through today.

Any point appealing to say that I wasn’t aware of the ULEZ, and being unfamiliar with London in general caused this? I’ve always paid the congestion charge in advance when I’ve been there and knew I was going into the area, so it’s not like I purposely tried to flout this one either!

I’ll upload redacted pics later today of the notice.

[RJH]

Amethyst - I haven't been on here for a long while, not sure if anyone can help. I've tried to upload pics but it's not allowing me to share them.

[Amethyst]

Hiya xxxxxx

Do you want to email me ( admin@legalbeagles.info) them and I'll post up for you ( normally it's because they are too big - if using phone then screenshot the photo before trying to upload )

I know nothing about ULEZ though but once we've sorted out the docs I'm sure ostell or charitynjw ( or anyone else ) will have some thoughts - though I doubt not knowing will be an accepted defence ... ( https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult.../ulez-payments ) ... likely to be quite a lot of signage when entering " the zone"

[charitynjw]

Hi

I guess a good place to start would be to check the vehicle's emission rating.
You should be able to do so here.

[des8]

To an outsider there is nothing on the ULEZ signs to indicate a charge is made .(https://www.google.com/search?q=ulez...ryCdozUfzFiLM: )
Compare it to the "Congestion Charge" signs which mention the word "charge" (https://www.google.com/search?q=cong...w=1396&bih=686)

seems unfair to me from wild West Wales... how should I know about ULEZ charges if they are not advertised at the boundary of the zone?

[RJH]

Amethyst email sent, thanks.

des8 very true, maybe a valid point?

[Amethyst]

[Amethyst]

To an outsider there is nothing on the ULEZ signs to indicate a charge is made .(https://www.google.com/search?q=ulez...ryCdozUfzFiLM: )
Compare it to the "Congestion Charge" signs which mention the word "charge" (https://www.google.com/search?q=cong...w=1396&bih=686)

seems unfair to me from wild West Wales... how should I know about ULEZ charges if they are not advertised at the boundary of the zone?

I wouldnt have a clue either tbh - I never drive in London, tried to once and it scared the bejesus out of me lol.

So how are you meant to know how / what etc to pay ? or even know
that you have to pay , or what cars have to pay - how do you know if your
car has low emissions anyway ? Ughhhh

[Amethyst]

Hi

I guess a good place to start would be to check the vehicle's emission rating.
You should be able to do so here.

Cool apparently I have low emissions- who knew ? And how would you know to check if it doesn't say on the signs ?

[des8]

Used to drive in London on daily basis, but just found another reason for not visiting the Big Smoke:

PTH939KBlue MG B GT
ULEZ charge applies to this vehicle


Daily charge: £12.50

[RJH]

Is it worth me sending an appeal to them to say these things? I can’t be affording £160, and £80 is a stretch at the minute too. It just seems a bit unfair considering.

[des8]

If you don't appeal, you'll never know.
I think it is too new a charge to find any precedents

[RJH]

des8 i’ll send one off and let you know how it goes. Happy to send to you if you want to check it over too.

[des8]

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[Amethyst]

May be worth keeping an eye on pepipoo too - this thread poster is appealing on the basis of unclear signage - http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?...&#entry1493896