Aiding contreventions

[wales01man]

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Wales01man, you are not comparing apples to apples here. Having a place to live is an essential requirement.

How would you feel if every landlord in England refused to let their property to you because you are Welsh?

Iam half welsh so they may let me rent half the house?

[wales01man]

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This is how the agent responded:

"Unfortunately the landlord has stipulated no Housing Benefit on this property."

No justification other than that

Indeed he had knowledge that I met the definition of 'disabled' and was claiming Housing Benefit for this reason. For all I know this was an impromptu policy.

how the hell could you prove that if you feel you have a case take them to court to show we all all wrong

[Amethyst]

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http://researchbriefings.files.parli...08/SN07008.pdf

( probably already been posted and may be irrelevant just last couple comments reminded me of the paper )

[heisenberg]

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Iam half welsh so they may let me rent half the house?

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how the hell could you prove that if you feel you have a case take them to court to show we all all wrong

Very difficult to prove someone is being less than truthful. I may take legal action and get the court's view.

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http://researchbriefings.files.parli...08/SN07008.pdf

( probably already been posted and may be irrelevant just last couple comments reminded me of the paper )

Interesting paper. It does not address the section 15 (discrimination arising from disability) issue squarely though.

[heisenberg]

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Seems indirect discrimination is a potential argument:

http://housingrights.org.uk/news/can-landlords-lawfully-turn-away-tenants-housing-benefit

It seems to all rest on justification. I'm sure many landlords will argue that their mortgage lender has adopted this policy and not them personally (whether this is true or not is another matter).

[Noah]

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Well, the research briefing summed it up pretty well and I think you would be on a hiding to nothing in court. I also think that it would be irresponsible to proceed with this if legal aid were picking up the bill.

Why hey does it rest on justification?
Have you proven that people covered by the equality act are disproportionately affected ? Surely that would be step 1
There are lots of people covered by the equality act who are working and renting
The problem as well is self defining , many people who work would not class themselves as disabled although covered by the EA

The move by our caring sharing right wing government to cut the LHA to the 30th percentile demonstrates their true morals.

[heisenberg]

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Well, the research briefing summed it up pretty well and I think you would be on a hiding to nothing in court. I also think that it would be irresponsible to proceed with this if legal aid were picking up the bill.

Easy tiger!

Why hey does it rest on justification?

Did you read the article? More importantly, have you studied the law?

Have you proven that people covered by the equality act are disproportionately affected ? Surely that would be step 1

I am the living proof.

There are lots of people covered by the equality act who are working and renting. The problem as well is self defining , many people who work would not class themselves as disabled although covered by the EA.

I'm not sure of your argument here?

The move by our caring sharing right wing government to cut the LHA to the 30th percentile demonstrates their true morals.

Let's not get me started on that. Did you hear of the proposals to cut PIP causing Iain Duncan Smith to resign?

[Noah]

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Sorry Heisenberg but one case is not proof.

For example , the reason employment law regarding part time work had to change was because a disproportionate number of part time workers were women hence it was seen as sex discrimination , a protected characteristic under the EA.

Its not one case, you need evidence that shows disabled people in general find it harder to get private rented accom because they are more likely to be on HB.
You may think that or believe that but you need to prove it

If of course a lawyer genuinely believes you fulfil the legal aid criteria then go for it BUT I would doubt it. If they were that sure they could do a CFA although our government have screwed that as well

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Will we ever know the real reason IDS resigned? He was not exactly welfare friendly

[heisenberg]

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Sorry Heisenberg but one case is not proof.

For example , the reason employment law regarding part time work had to change was because a disproportionate number of part time workers were women hence it was seen as sex discrimination , a protected characteristic under the EA.

Its not one case, you need evidence that shows disabled people in general find it harder to get private rented accom because they are more likely to be on HB.
You may think that or believe that but you need to prove it

If of course a lawyer genuinely believes you fulfil the legal aid criteria then go for it BUT I would doubt it. If they were that sure they could do a CFA although our government have screwed that as well

Will we ever know the real reason IDS resigned? He was not exactly welfare friendly

Every case rests on its own facts. I am not trying to change the law but am only applying it.

I think my solicitor has already agreed to take on the case and will probably serve a letter before action.

CFA?

[wales01man]

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How much does this Solicitor expect to win to enable them to get their fees which at best would be a couple of hundred an hour?

[heisenberg]

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How much does this Solicitor expect to win to enable them to get their fees which at best would be a couple of hundred an hour?

It's a discrimination case so it would be covered by legal aid.

[wales01man]

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It's a discrimination case so it would be covered by legal aid.

And your pay out according to the Solicitor

[heisenberg]

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And your pay out according to the Solicitor

Who knows. Probably not worth the stress.

[wales01man]

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Who knows. Probably not worth the stress.

Im thinking the same its not gonna change a thing as I said before you can have millions of laws and rules they all will be broken the only ones winning fighting to change or enforce them are the legal bods at hundreds of pounds an hour

[heisenberg]

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Im thinking the same its not gonna change a thing as I said before you can have millions of laws and rules they all will be broken the only ones winning fighting to change or enforce them are the legal bods at
hundreds of pounds an hour

Indeed. Most barristers and partners earn more than the judges themselves. Some of them around 3 times as much.