Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

[MIKE770]

PetitionOutlaw Zero hour contract once and for all & make no excuses not to

Government ignoring common sense with this issue and trying to blanket situation out!

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[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

How very absurd.

[Mr $quandaŁot]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

As long as the Tories are in, it simply won't happen.

We have a PM who is more right wing and extreme than Maggie. Then we have IDS who is clearly in favour of zero hour contracts but wants to call them flexible working hours. Neither of them have ever lived in the real world.

Zero hour contracts have existed as long as I can remember. The only difference is that traditionally there were usually used by employment agencies. Now companies themselves are increasingly going that route too.

[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Zero-hour contracts are not inherently evil and many employers and workers enjoy the mutual benefits of zero-hour contracts.

We don't have to ban them, we simply have to make sure employers are administering them properly.

[Mr $quandaŁot]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Zero-hour contracts are not inherently evil and many employers and workers enjoy the mutual benefits of zero-hour contracts.

We don't have to ban them, we simply have to make sure employers are administering them properly.

Yes, they can be handy for students, retired people or those who simply want to earn a bit extra.

However, relying your livelihood on a zero hour contract is simply not right. You often hear that many people get full-time hours anyway on those contracts. Then, why can't employers simply offer a proper contract?

I'm sorry but many people are simply better off on the Social than working on these often abusive contracts.

Stay on the Social if you can't get a proper contract of employment is my advice. Yes, IDS, I don't care what you think or say!

[MIKE770]

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We are paying for zero contract hours due to income fluctuating so much,
and the old one no work this week which in my O.H.case came to =- Earn Ł650 over 10 weeks, o.k. then reduction of council tax of Ł320 , then she was offered Ł1,45 per week to sign on, all due to my small pensions.

Bus fare to sign on = Ł2..45 return says it all, she paid N.I.all the years but get nort when needed. Pension credit a joke

[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

I am sorry about your personal experience with zero-hour contracts but it isn't the same for everyone.

This is a forum to give/receive legal advice and IMO this post doesn't belong here.

Perhaps one of the admins can move/remove it - [MENTION=49370]Kati[/MENTION] [MENTION=6]Amethyst[/MENTION]

[MIKE770]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

I am sorry about your personal experience with zero-hour contracts but it isn't the same for everyone.

This is a forum to give/receive legal advice and IMO this post doesn't belong here.

Perhaps one of the admins can move/remove it - @Kati @Amethyst

Matt this is a subject for a lot of people! do not try to be cleaver some of us have been on here for years, in fact zero hours come under legal in a lot of organisations due to employers stance.

This is a general thread.

[Kati]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

I am not going to close or move this thread without the agreement of the rest of the team

[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

I'm not trying to be clever and I don't appreciate the tone of your response. I also don't see the relevance of your length of time on the forum - are you implying some kind of seniority?

It seems the purpose of your post is to elicit signatories to an online petition, which I don't think is an appropriate use of this forum.

If you want to have a professional and objective discussion about the pros and cons of zero-hour contracts I would be more than happy to partake.

[meellis]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Why the arguments, there is a petition you can sign or you can choose not to simples. As for having a thread removed because one person doesn't agree with it feels like censorship and trying to influence intelligent peoples own views for ones own needs. I would have to wonder why a thread like this would generate such views it is neither offensive or outside of issues that users are affected by, if these contracts are a good thing the petition will not get much support but personally having been both an employer and an employee I feel these contracts favour the employer more than the employee.

[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Wether I agree or not is entirely irrelevant and I'm not sure what you think my needs are, and how removing the link will satisfy them - my point was that I don't think it's an appropriate use of this forum.

As I said, I am more than happy to have an objective discussion about the pros and cons of zero-hour contracts.

[meellis]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

My personal view is the thread is taking up very little resources of the forum, it is an issue that members relate to and intelligent people can choose whether to partake in either the thread or the signing of the petition. It is a fairly harmless thread due to its nature, it isn't actually asking for support and even if it was it isn't a cause which is either distasteful, offensive or illegal but it is one that is current. I can understand your reasons to feel it might not be appropriate, I don't agree even though it is a subject that doesn't affect me, I cannot understand your need to want its removal though when people can just choose to ignore it.

[Mr $quandaŁot]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Wether I agree or not is entirely irrelevant and I'm not sure what you think my needs are, and how removing the link will satisfy them - my point was that I don't think it's an appropriate use of this forum.

As I said, I am more than happy to have an objective discussion about the pros and cons of zero-hour contracts.

Who do you think you are?

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion but I think zero hour contract discussion is, indeed, relevant to this forum.

Please do not tell the sit team how to run this forum. If you don't like it, please go elsewhere.

[matt3942]

Re: Outlaw zero hours petition is live now

Who do I think I am? I suppose if we were in a pub you'd call me out.

Please read my posts - at no point did I say the discussion wasn't relevant - I don't think the petition link is appropriate.