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OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

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  • OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

    I currently am scheduled to have a hearing for an ongoing issue with a debt, tomorrow. So far, I have no representation and have been writing to the debt company/courts myself.


    Back in June 2009 I bought my parents a three-piece sofa suite under a interest free credit scheme, from Land of Leather who have since gone bankrupt. My understanding when purchasing the items was that, the credit company (Creation Finance) would debit my bank account after the 3 month period was up (September 2009), something which seemed logical to me, as they also took my bank details.
    It transpired that I was meant to pay Creation Finance myself and that failure to do on by the end of the 3 month period would automatically enter me into a credit agreement to pay a total interest amount over three years greater than the £1,500 debt itself.
    After noticing that sums of money were leaving my account and asking CF about this, they explained what had happened, and I subsequently wrote them a cheque for £1500 minus the two interest payments they had deducted, which they consequently cashed in January 2010 (proof of receipt obtained from my bank). Following on from that, I received numerous letters, my parents were called at their home sometimes daily, frankly I considered the matter closed.
    After several more nuisance calls, I wrote CF a letter asking them to stop harassing my parents and that since I had not been explained the terms of the contract clearly, and that I had had sufficient funds in my account to make payment at the end of the 3month period, I believed the claims to be unauthorised.
    After ages, I received a forwarded letter from an old address that I had recently moved out of, that Cabot Financial were seeking action against me. I wrote to the court declaring that I intended to defend this claim which I mistakenly sent to the claimant's solicitors.
    The claimant solicitors (your friends Reston's) sent this back to me and a few days later, the county court issued a judgement against me, after which I received another letter and a nice notification from Experian that my credit file now had a CCJ on it.


    I have managed to get a date that this hearing will now take place (16/10/14) where I would be defending this claim explaining the circumstances of the contract.

    My main argument will be that the terms werent explained to me and that i paid the principal 4 months after realising what was going on (Jan 2010), so a) a DEFAULT notice on my credit history in Jan 2014 and then getting a CCJ against me in August doesnt reflect the fact that i had the money and was able to pay the debt when it was due back in 2009.



    My question here is, do I have any chance of a) successfully defending this case b) having all the detrimental changes to my credit file removed as the "debt" which it refers to should never have been incurred as I paid the principal amount in full within 4 months of it being due.

    Or am I f***ed??



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    Re: OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

    Gosh, bit late to help you very much with this, but I wish you the very best for tomorrow.

    I understand your argument, which sounds common sensical and morally right, however the terms of the contract will rule - in the contract you need to look at the exact wording of the section where you entered bank details and what the position is at the end of the initial 3 month interest free period, and argue that is unclear and was explained to you poorly by the salesman.

    Without looking at all the documents exchanged so far and the full agreement signed with creation and the terms of sale from the furniture store it's really impossible to say what you chances are, but be honest, polite, reasonable and respectful and you shouldn't go too far wrong.

    If they haven't supplied you with documents - copies of the agreement, assignment, default notice etc - then you should ask the court to order they do that, along with a full statement of account to show how the amount has been made up.
    #staysafestayhome

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      Re: OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

      Thanks Ameyhst
      I have seen the docs which my parents' solicitor said, in his opinion, were open to misinterpretation. And at the time of signing, I honestly had no idea that the onus was on me to pay directly at the end of the IF period and I will argue that until they chuck me out! The total sum they're claiming for makes up all the interest (£1335 on a £1500 loan) plus some legal fees.
      I completely understand about how ethics/common sense doesnt matter but the letter of the law does, but Im going to have a punt anyway because my mother used to say, 'never be bullied by anybody' and I will crush these jokers.

      If the CCJ is upheld, what are my options? If I pay, will the default go off my record once it's paid or does it all stay there forever regardless of what now happens?

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        Re: OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

        If you pay within 28 days the CCJ will never go on your record. Although the default will stay on your file until the six years are up.

        In small claims, so long as you act reasonably, then you may as well take a punt.

        Good luck today, and please come and tell us what happens. With a bit more time we might be a bit more help if you need to do anything further.

        If you can , later, post a copy of the creation finance agreement, then that would be a great help.
        #staysafestayhome

        Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

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          Re: OK I did something bad.... Creation/Cabot Finance

          OK so, yesterday wasnt the main defense hearing but actually a hearing to 'set aside the previous judgement'! However, i dont understand what I need to do now: send my defense to the court or to the claimant because the judge alluded to both yesterday and as above, I had previously sent Reston's my defence and they returned it to me. So, any ideas anyone?
          The other thing I learnt, is that I was CRAZY nervous yesterday so perhaps time to get a solicitor for the rest of this, though I do like a challenge.

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