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  • Ohfreeme
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    Re: Please help, question regarding N180 form

    Originally posted by Ohfreeme View Post
    I'm doing it now!

    So fingers crossed I don't fudge it up, been browsing through the forum and other sites to get an idea of what to write. I'll post what I manage to do before I hand it in. I'm hoping that if I take it in person it won't count as late. The court letter stated both parties had until the 29th...

    I've been horrendously ill and then my daughter came down with illness so I've been up with her the last 2 nights...

    Anyway I better crack on.

    Night night.
    ok this is what I managed tonight... My head hurts and I feel hopeless but I tried anyways.

    if anyone is around in the morning and would be kind enough to let me know if I should hand it in or not please let me know. I was going to try and get there straight after the school run but I'll drag it out till about 11am in case I really have done a horrendous job.

    I honestly don't know what the hell I've gotten myself in for and sort of feel like giving up.




    IN THE COUNTY COURT AT Xxxxx

    Claim No. xxxx

    BETWEEN:
    LOWELL PORTFOLIO I LTD

    Claimant
    - and –




    Xxxxxx



    Defendant


    _________________________________

    WITNESS STATEMENT OF Xxxxxxxx
    _________________________________


    1. I Xxxx of xxxxxx, am the Defendant in this claim. The facts in this statement come from my personal knowledge, documents in my possession and all documents made available to me from the Claimant “xx”.

    2. Exhibited to this statement marked “xx” is a paginated bundle of documents. Where I refer in this statement to a page number.

    3. The claim relates to a credit agreement (“the Agreement”) regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974. I believe the account was opened in 2008, however I do not recall signing any credit agreement at that time and do not hold a copy of the agreement or terms of that agreement. The original account was opened with a company named xxxx.

    4. I do acknowledge receipt of a notice of assignment and letter from the Claimant dated 27th October 2015. I did not initially respond to them as I believed that the assignment was not real. Both where received in the same envelope with the same printer reference giving indication that the Claimant had created both these documents and that it was not sent from the original creditor. Please refer to page 1-2 of “xx”


    5. I am mother to (way to many kids to handle, I put a number here) children aged from xx to xxyrs, x of my children are on the Autistic Spectrum and I am unemployed. We where made homeless in 20xx and I also contracted xxxxx. Due to this, subsequent correspondence from the Claimant where filed to be dealt with at a later date.

    6. I moved with my children to the above address in xxxxx xxxx. Due to various personal problems including my battle with depression I continued to file correspondence from the Claimant not feeling the mental strength to call and question the letters received.


    7. I acknowledge that I did receive a letter of claim from the Claimant, although it is dated xxx xxx xxx I did not receive it until xx xxx xxxx, I was not able to respond at the time as I was making preparations for my xxxx Operation. I mentioned before that I have x children on the Autistic Spectrum, I feel this is relevant to mention this as my children need structure and routine. As I would be absent for some time I had to make preparations in time of my surgery in xxxxx.

    8. I had my xxxx operation on xxxxx. The claim form was received xxxxx which I completed and returned.


    9. I made a request to the Claimant and the claimants Solicitor for further information relating to the claim, sent recorded delivery and including the £1 fee via postal order. Please refer to pages 3-6 of “xxx”.

    10. I received a response to my request from the claimants Solicitor dated xxxx, with the previously mentioned notice of assignment attached. This time the company logo and printer references where removed. Please refer to pages 7-9 of “xxxx” No Credit agreement was included.


    11. The claimant has failed to provide true copies of the requested documents.

    12. The next correspondence I received from the claimant was a copy of the directions questionnaire dated xxxxx, still no sign of the agreement.


    13. I acknowledge that the Claimant sent to me the documents they have supplied to the court with reference “xxx” with the letter dated xxxxx which is page 19 of “xxxx”

    14. I did not respond to the claimant as I had still not received the credit agreement and the prescribed terms and conditions, although the claimant mentions that the credit agreement is included in the pack I still have not received a copy.

    15. The Claimant has not complied with my formal request for the Credit Agreement under s.78(1) and therefore is unable to enforce the debt at this time.



    Statement of Truth

    I, xxxxxxx, the Defendant, believe the facts stated within this Witness Statement to be true.


    Signed: _______________________________

    Sorry got got a little ott with the marking out of details... I really am rather paranoid.

    Many thanks for all your help and reassurance.

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  • Ohfreeme
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    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    They haven't provided the terms have they and their ''agreement'' doesn't contain any of the prescribed terms at all.

    Where you up to on your Witness Statement ?
    I'm doing it now!

    So fingers crossed I don't fudge it up, been browsing through the forum and other sites to get an idea of what to write. I'll post what I manage to do before I hand it in. I'm hoping that if I take it in person it won't count as late. The court letter stated both parties had until the 29th...

    I've been horrendously ill and then my daughter came down with illness so I've been up with her the last 2 nights...

    Anyway I better crack on.

    Night night.

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  • Amethyst
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    They haven't provided the terms have they and their ''agreement'' doesn't contain any of the prescribed terms at all.

    Where you up to on your Witness Statement ?

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  • Ohfreeme
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    Please anyone? I'm gonna have to hand it in in person tomorrow which is the deadline....

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  • Ohfreeme
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    Morning all,

    I was about to crack on with my defence when I noticed that they missed something out from the pack they sent to the court and copies to me...

    The attached image was a letter included with the statements and the table with my details that they claim to be the credit agreement...

    What do you make of it please and is it worth mentioning in my defence?

    I also noticed that they've hidden things from the supposed notice of assignment.

    I mentioned before that the documents looked fraudulent (Which is why I initially ignored them).

    On my original letter they've used Vanquis logo and also running down the side is their own printer reference which proves that their letter and the fake notice of assignment was printed from them at the same time.

    These two things are missing from their court evidence.

    I feel like Sherlock Holmes today lol.

    (Edit: I found the second copy sonit was included haha... So much paperwork I'm getting rather confused. I'd still like to know if it has any relavance though.)
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    Last edited by Ohfreeme; 19th September 2017, 10:05:AM.

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  • Amethyst
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    Oh AND.... don't let the tone of anything they send upset you ... they don't see you as a person, just a line of numbers of a page and £££ .... there's no thought or feeling goes into anything. It's just like playing chess against the computer ... except you win more often ( actually not sure if that makes you feel better or worse about it !)

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  • Ohfreeme
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    Re: Please help, question regarding N180 form

    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    Yip make a start on your Witness Statement. They have sent theirs a bit early and you've got 14 days still to get yours written, filed and served

    I think I'd do agreement not received, however if the claimant's case is that exhibits 1-3 are the agreement then they fail because x,y,z etc. Di might have other thoughts on that though.

    Considering you seem to have started out on GOODF, your defence isn't that bad At least you got the CCA request sent and into the defence and didn't try calling yourself Free of the Family Man ....

    ( just popping the POC here for you )
    Thank you! You're a star!

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  • Amethyst
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    Yip make a start on your Witness Statement. They have sent theirs a bit early and you've got 14 days still to get yours written, filed and served

    I think I'd do agreement not received, however if the claimant's case is that exhibits 1-3 are the agreement then they fail because x,y,z etc. Di might have other thoughts on that though.

    Considering you seem to have started out on GOODF, your defence isn't that bad At least you got the CCA request sent and into the defence and didn't try calling yourself Free of the Family Man ....

    ( just popping the POC here for you )
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  • Ohfreeme
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    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    Got it.

    How bizarre that they have said in the Witness Statement that they have sent the Agreement, enclose a letter saying they have sent the agreement, but not ever actually sent the agreement. I suppose they are hoping it will show up so they can say ''here is the one we sent'' in court.

    If that's everything they have sent you then they have failed to comply with your section 78 CCA request .

    So letter that says they enclose the agreement ( but didn't, just the digital application thingy) ...
    That's what I thought, the tone of the witness stament is what upset me.

    I didnt think i should respond when my request had not been fulfilled.

    I think I will work on my own witness statement pointing out that the agreement has never been received.

    What did you think of the letter from the Original creditor?

    Seems odd to write a letter confirming information with no contact detail and not even addressed to me.

    Looks like a standard template...

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    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    And THIS is what they are saying is the agreement (presumably as they haven't included any agreement, just this... and there are no terms )
    Just confirm Ohfreeme - is this what was in the WS at pages 1-3 of the exhibits?
    Yep that is it, not even somewhere showing where I should or would have clicked to sign...

    - - - Updated - - -

    Also a print out of transactions... No terms and conditions etc. X

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  • Amethyst
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    And THIS is what they are saying is the agreement (presumably as they haven't included any agreement, just this... and there are no terms )
    Just confirm Ohfreeme - is this what was in the WS at pages 1-3 of the exhibits?
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  • Amethyst
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    Re: Please help, question regarding N180 form

    Notice of Assignment
    Attached Files

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  • Amethyst
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    Re: Please help, question regarding N180 form

    Default notice
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  • Amethyst
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    Got it.

    How bizarre that they have said in the Witness Statement that they have sent the Agreement, enclose a letter saying they have sent the agreement, but not ever actually sent the agreement. I suppose they are hoping it will show up so they can say ''here is the one we sent'' in court.

    If that's everything they have sent you then they have failed to comply with your section 78 CCA request .

    So letter that says they enclose the agreement ( but didn't, just the digital application thingy) ...
    Attached Files

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  • Ohfreeme
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    Originally posted by Amethyst View Post
    Can you check if your email might have bounced back ( possibly too big ) ? as nothing's appeared yet.... or try my personal email amethyst1664@hotmail.co.uk - I have the other PDF you posted on here fine, but you'd left your name on the response pack so have modded it for now.

    Is there no credit agreement attached to the witness statement ? If not, what is at pages 1 to 3 ?
    I've tried sending it again to the email address above.


    They sent me a copy of a letter apparently from the OC but with no name attached.

    They sent a table with some of my personal details, a print out of transactions and also the letter saying the credit agreement is attached.

    I have not at any point received a credit agreement.

    Is the letter that is meant to be from the OC even classed as evidence? I could knock up the letter myself in mins!

    I didn't respond to them initially because I could tell the letter was fake from the OC. They where sent in the same envelope and I could tell it was badly put together on a word processor.

    When Lowell sent me the claim letter, I was recovering from surgery and there wasn't much I could do as I was bed bound.

    Before I lost my marbles,Data protection and fraud where my specialties, working in the public sector.

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  • Amethyst
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    Re: Please help, question regarding N180 form

    Can you check if your email might have bounced back ( possibly too big ) ? as nothing's appeared yet.... or try my personal email amethyst1664@hotmail.co.uk - I have the other PDF you posted on here fine, but you'd left your name on the response pack so have modded it for now.

    Is there no credit agreement attached to the witness statement ? If not, what is at pages 1 to 3 ?

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