Hello all,
I recently received a Money Claim Form from ELMS Legal regarding a parking fine from August 2024. I did not pay the fine at the time and now I’ve received this claim form. I want to file a defence on any basis that could help me defend this claim.
I would be grateful to the members of the forum for all the help they could offer me to help me take the correct steps to draw up and file the written defence ? Any guidance on how to structure my defence would be greatly appreciated. I have acknowledged the claim online using the advised provided in this forum. So I think I have 28 days form 23rd of May 25. Thus I only have a few days to respond to the claim.
They must have got my details from the licence plate supplied by the DVLA. I guess DVLA make money from passing on the register keeper details to these firms.
The claim I received a claim form for £245 that states:
The claim is for a breach of contract breaching the terms and conditions set on private land. The defendant's vehicle X was identified in the X location on DATE in breach of the advertised terms and conditions. namely not parked wholly within the markings of the designated bay. At all times the defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver. The terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will be issued and the defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability. The claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.
What are my options here please? The fine is quite substantial and would be a solid chunk out of my pay, on the other hand I don't want a CCJ on my record as I have a mortgage.
I first received the notice to keeper in early September 2024 then a final reminder in October 2024 ( no second reminder in-between) followed by letter before action from ELMS Legal around 15th May 2025. I did not respond to any of them.
Then on 29th May 2025 I received the court claim form for £245.00. I have responded to this by acknowledging it the next day.
I have been visiting this car park for over 20 years ,never notices any signs or thought that I am entering into a contact with the company when I park my car there until I received the notice to keeper. I was not able to park my car fully in the bay because there was another car partly parked in the bay. I did not purposely park the car outside the lines. I simply used the car parked in the bay as a guide when parking my car. I would have been able to park wholly with in the bay if that car was not partly in the bay my car was parked. Plus I was only there for about half an hour or maybe less. It would cause my joints and shoulder too much aggravation to take the car out and park it in a different bay.
I was suffering from lot of pain in my right shoulder (Adhesive Capsulitis) plus also pain in other joints plus inflammatory marks in my blood test results pointing to Rheumatoid arthritis and Scleroderma (I have doctor’s letters to support this issue as the doctor had to refer me to hospital for further investigation). I did not feel that I had enough energy in me to deal with it. Which was part of the reason for not responding to the notice to keeper and final reminder. I am also wondering if I can use my medical condition as part of the defence along with any other suggestions that you can make.
I feel that these companies look at drivers like cash cows and use any excuse to extort money. It is not possible to open the passenger door properly as the bays do not have void spaces between them allowing sufficient space for the doors to be opened. I only found this void spaces in the local Sainsbury car park.
I also feel the signage is inadequate as never noticed the sign at the entrance to the car park mentioned in the particulars of claim, my other half also said he never noticed the signage and he is been visiting the carpark for many years. The parking bays in the car park can only be accessed after turning in to carpark access and passing a roundabout. The sign mentioned in the particulars of claim is positioned few meters inside just before the roundabout. Thus in my opinion the sign is not at the entrance and it is inadequately placed in a busy area just before a roundabout where a driver will not notice as the driver will be looking out for cars emerging from the right of the roundabout or even if the driver noticed the signage s/he is not in a position to stop and read the sign (terms of the contract). The rest of the signs are in located in the centre of the car park which will be visible to the drivers parking facing the sign. Drivers who park in the bays adjacent to the main road facing the main road will not see the signage unless they walk up to the sign in the middle of the car park. Not sure if this is explanation helps. I can provide a simple diagram if the members of the forum think that this is something I should incorporate in my response.
Please could you advise if I should send a letter for subject access request letter? It says they have a month to provide this. However I needs to submit a defence before that if the court deadline is 28 days.
Please could you also let me know if I should send a CPR 31.14 request for inspection of documents?
I am wondering if I have to pay them for this as the template make reference to paying reasonable coping cost incurred in complying with CPR 31.14. I am not sure what is considered as reasonable cost. I hope that someone on this forum would have experience of this or this wording is just formality and I do not have to pay them for the copy paperwork.
I would like to upload PDF of redacted paperwork and picture of sign but this forum's system is not letting me do this. A message is coming up saying "you are not authorized to create or remove attachments (no_create_permission_attach).
Could someone please let me know how I can get permission to attached PDF and picture? I cannot upload any links either. I am not sure what the issue is.
Many thanks you all in advance
I recently received a Money Claim Form from ELMS Legal regarding a parking fine from August 2024. I did not pay the fine at the time and now I’ve received this claim form. I want to file a defence on any basis that could help me defend this claim.
I would be grateful to the members of the forum for all the help they could offer me to help me take the correct steps to draw up and file the written defence ? Any guidance on how to structure my defence would be greatly appreciated. I have acknowledged the claim online using the advised provided in this forum. So I think I have 28 days form 23rd of May 25. Thus I only have a few days to respond to the claim.
They must have got my details from the licence plate supplied by the DVLA. I guess DVLA make money from passing on the register keeper details to these firms.
The claim I received a claim form for £245 that states:
The claim is for a breach of contract breaching the terms and conditions set on private land. The defendant's vehicle X was identified in the X location on DATE in breach of the advertised terms and conditions. namely not parked wholly within the markings of the designated bay. At all times the defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver. The terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct. The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will be issued and the defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability. The claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.
What are my options here please? The fine is quite substantial and would be a solid chunk out of my pay, on the other hand I don't want a CCJ on my record as I have a mortgage.
I first received the notice to keeper in early September 2024 then a final reminder in October 2024 ( no second reminder in-between) followed by letter before action from ELMS Legal around 15th May 2025. I did not respond to any of them.
Then on 29th May 2025 I received the court claim form for £245.00. I have responded to this by acknowledging it the next day.
I have been visiting this car park for over 20 years ,never notices any signs or thought that I am entering into a contact with the company when I park my car there until I received the notice to keeper. I was not able to park my car fully in the bay because there was another car partly parked in the bay. I did not purposely park the car outside the lines. I simply used the car parked in the bay as a guide when parking my car. I would have been able to park wholly with in the bay if that car was not partly in the bay my car was parked. Plus I was only there for about half an hour or maybe less. It would cause my joints and shoulder too much aggravation to take the car out and park it in a different bay.
I was suffering from lot of pain in my right shoulder (Adhesive Capsulitis) plus also pain in other joints plus inflammatory marks in my blood test results pointing to Rheumatoid arthritis and Scleroderma (I have doctor’s letters to support this issue as the doctor had to refer me to hospital for further investigation). I did not feel that I had enough energy in me to deal with it. Which was part of the reason for not responding to the notice to keeper and final reminder. I am also wondering if I can use my medical condition as part of the defence along with any other suggestions that you can make.
I feel that these companies look at drivers like cash cows and use any excuse to extort money. It is not possible to open the passenger door properly as the bays do not have void spaces between them allowing sufficient space for the doors to be opened. I only found this void spaces in the local Sainsbury car park.
I also feel the signage is inadequate as never noticed the sign at the entrance to the car park mentioned in the particulars of claim, my other half also said he never noticed the signage and he is been visiting the carpark for many years. The parking bays in the car park can only be accessed after turning in to carpark access and passing a roundabout. The sign mentioned in the particulars of claim is positioned few meters inside just before the roundabout. Thus in my opinion the sign is not at the entrance and it is inadequately placed in a busy area just before a roundabout where a driver will not notice as the driver will be looking out for cars emerging from the right of the roundabout or even if the driver noticed the signage s/he is not in a position to stop and read the sign (terms of the contract). The rest of the signs are in located in the centre of the car park which will be visible to the drivers parking facing the sign. Drivers who park in the bays adjacent to the main road facing the main road will not see the signage unless they walk up to the sign in the middle of the car park. Not sure if this is explanation helps. I can provide a simple diagram if the members of the forum think that this is something I should incorporate in my response.
Please could you advise if I should send a letter for subject access request letter? It says they have a month to provide this. However I needs to submit a defence before that if the court deadline is 28 days.
Please could you also let me know if I should send a CPR 31.14 request for inspection of documents?
I am wondering if I have to pay them for this as the template make reference to paying reasonable coping cost incurred in complying with CPR 31.14. I am not sure what is considered as reasonable cost. I hope that someone on this forum would have experience of this or this wording is just formality and I do not have to pay them for the copy paperwork.
I would like to upload PDF of redacted paperwork and picture of sign but this forum's system is not letting me do this. A message is coming up saying "you are not authorized to create or remove attachments (no_create_permission_attach).
Could someone please let me know how I can get permission to attached PDF and picture? I cannot upload any links either. I am not sure what the issue is.
Many thanks you all in advance



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