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    Hi Guys,

    I have been reading the posts that relate to defence of court claims here. Thanks for the post and hope I will get some love and help here as well.

    I received a court claim dated 23.01.25 and I have acknowledged the claim to get the extra days for my defence which I hope to do this weekend.

    TM Legal is claiming on behalf of Perch capital on a drawdown loan issued on 10.02.17. There was no communication or payment made to the My Jar or Perch. The first communication was to Moriety Law on 02.04.24. This I believe made it status barred. The claimant sent me an email that a default was sent in 2019. Then it sent another email that it was a termination notice. I sent a postal order and self addressed envelope to request for CCA, statements and any notice of default. An email with 3 attachments of the termination notice( addressed from My Jar, to My Jar, does not have my address, and has my first name), a drawdown statement (no address, and no name), and a one page statement with no default or notice. There is no record of this drawdown or initial loan on Equifax, and on Clear score, the remnant of the my jar statement does not have a Default against my name.

    Below is the defence (I used the draft from this forum) that I intend to send this weekend.
    I am hoping you guys will take time to read through and advice.

    Many thanks.

    In the Northampton County Court Civil Business Centre.

    Claim No: XXXXX

    CLAIMANT: XXXXXXXXXX.

    DEFENDANT: XXX XXXXX


    DEFENCE
    1.The Defendant received the claim XXXX from the Northampton County Court civil business centre on XXX.

    2.Each allegation in the Claimants statement of case is denied unless specifically admitted in this Defence.
    3.This claim appears to be for a Loan agreement regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

    4.It is admitted that the Defendant has previously entered into an agreement with the original Creditor My Jar for provision of credit. Credit agreement number XXXX on XXXX. And a supposed advance on this original credit on XXX, which is the case the claimant is based on.

    5.The Claimants statement of case fails to give adequate information to enable me to properly assess my position with regards the claim. A £1 postal order was sent by recorded delivery requesting that the claimant send to me, the original copy of the Credit agreement for the loans; the statement for these loans; and any default or default notice associated with these loans. A reply from the claimant by email was sent to me with 3 attachments of, the annual statement dated XXX; a drawdown summary that was not dated; and a Termination notice dated XXXX, which does not have my full name, does not have my address, but addressed from My jar and to My Jar.
    6.The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim fail to state when the agreement was entered.

    7.The Defendant contends the alleged debt is statute barred by virtue of Section 5 of the Limitations Act 1980 in that no payment or acknowledgment has been made for over 6 years. From 10.02.2017 to 02.04.24. The first of three status barred letters were sent on 02.04.24 by the Defendant to the claimants and its representatives, Moriety Law and TM Legal.

    8.The Claimants statement of case states that the account was assigned from the original Creditor My Jar to Claimant Perch Capital. The Defendant does not recall receiving the notice of this assignment.

    9.It is denied that the original Creditor My Jar served any Default notice on the Defendant pursuant to s87 Consumer Credit Act 1974. The Claimant is required to prove that a compliant Default Notice was served upon the Defendant. The Claimant is required to prove that any Default notice relied upon complied with the requirements of s88(4A) Consumer Credit Act 1974 and that the notice was in the prescribed form as required by The Consumer Credit Enforcement Default and Termination Notice Regulations 1983. The Claimant did not produce on request the said Default notice, but instead produce a Termination notice that does not have the Defendant full name, address, but was address from My Jar and to My Jar.

    10.On the 04.10.24, the Defendant sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the claimant’s statement of case under Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 to Claimant Perch Capital and its Solicitor, TM Legal. I requested the Claimant provide copies of the Credit Agreements, statements of the loans, Default Notice and Notice of Assignment.

    11. The Claimant’s Solicitor has not sent any of these documents to the Defendant. It however sent the annual statement and a drawdown summary for the advance loan (which does not have the Defendants details), and a Termination notice which also does not have the Defendants details printed on it.

    12.On 04.10.24 The Defendant sent a formal request for a copy of the original agreement to [Claimant] pursuant to section [77 or 78] of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 along with the statutory £1 fee.

    13.The Claimant has failed to comply with [s77 (1) / s 78 (1)] Consumer Credit Act 1974 and by virtue of [s77 (4) / s 78 (6)] Consumer Credit Act 1974 cannot enforce the said agreement.

    15.Under Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4) Where the claim includes a money claim, a defendant shall be taken to require that any allegation relating to the amount of money claimed be proved unless he expressly admits the allegation. Therefore, it is expected that the Claimant be required to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed.
    16.The Defendant respectfully requests the court orders the Claimants that the said loan is status barred as stated in the provision stated above, and since the claimant was unable to, or has failed to provide the necessary documentation, the Claim should be struck out.

    17.In the event that the relevant documents are received from the Claimant, the Defendant will then be in a position to amend his defence and would ask that the Claimants bear the costs of the amendment.

    18.It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief as claimed or at all.
    Statement of Truth
    I believe that the facts stated in this defence document are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.
    Signed ________________________________
    Dated _______________________________

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  • #2
    Hi
    Welcome to LB

    Para 9 bottom line alter to " Defendant's full name and address, but was addressed ........"

    Para 10 second line change "I" to "The Defendant"

    Para 11 first line change "It" to "The solicitor"
    bottom line apostrophe required in Defendants

    Para 16 first line change "status" to "statute"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pezza54 View Post
      Hi
      Welcome to LB

      Para 9 bottom line alter to " Defendant's full name and address, but was addressed ........"

      Para 10 second line change "I" to "The Defendant"

      Para 11 first line change "It" to "The solicitor"
      bottom line apostrophe required in Defendants

      Para 16 first line change "status" to "statute"

      Noted.
      Thanks

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      • #4
        'The claimant sent me an email that a default was sent in 2019. Then it sent another email that it was a termination notice.' You need to be clear on what they did and didn't do, so it might be an idea to wait until you get more information.

        'Hold fire' on sending you Defence until you get the requested documentation.

        A) Send a 31.14 request to TM Legal, they have 7 days to respond after receipt of letter). Make sure you get Proof of Postage.


        https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...-of-documents/

        B) Send a CCA request to Perch capital, they have 12 days to provide a copy of the agreement, make sure you get Proof of Postage.

        https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...etter-example/

        c) Send a SAR to My Jar, they have 30 days to provide all the data on the account, make sure you get Proof of Postage.

        https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...ccess-request/

        You need to lodge your Defence with the Court within 28 days of the date on the claim form (although you have 5 days for postal). Update the thread when you get the requested information so we can help with Defence, but at least 5 days before Defence is due.

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        • #5
          I am not sure the dates are correct in the defence
          OP received the court claim on 23.01.25 but in the Defence para 10 on 04.10.24 sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the claimant's statement of case

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pezza54 View Post
            I am not sure the dates are correct in the defence
            OP received the court claim on 23.01.25 but in the Defence para 10 on 04.10.24 sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the claimant's statement of case
            Yes, correct, he's Acknowledged Service of claim, so needs to take time to get his Defence submitted with the correct facts / information.

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            • #7
              Hi

              Before I joined this forum, I had read on national debt line that if the loan is status barred, I can sent a letter,which i did. Also I sent a letter ( template from the debt helpline) and a postal order of £1 to request for the CCA ,statements, and any Defaults associated with the loans.

              TM Legal replied to acknowledge my request through email, and sent 3 attachments.
              1. A one page statement of the original loan that was paid off.
              2. A drawdown statement claiming it is linked to the one page statement. My names and address are not on this.
              3. A termination notice. This only have my first name and no address.

              All the above happened last year 2024.

              I joined this firum after I received the court claim pack.

              Thanks for your advice.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chris.Chris View Post
                Hi

                Before I joined this forum, I had read on national debt line that if the loan is status barred, I can sent a letter,which i did. Also I sent a letter ( template from the debt helpline) and a postal order of £1 to request for the CCA ,statements, and any Defaults associated with the loans.

                TM Legal replied to acknowledge my request through email, and sent 3 attachments.
                1. A one page statement of the original loan that was paid off.
                2. A drawdown statement claiming it is linked to the one page statement. My names and address are not on this.
                3. A termination notice. This only have my first name and no address.

                All the above happened last year 2024.

                I joined this firum after I received the court claim pack.

                Thanks for your advice.
                O.K. if you are satisfied it's 'statute barred', then good.
                I'll have a look at the Defence.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by echat11 View Post

                  O.K. if you are satisfied it's 'statute barred', then good.
                  I'll have a look at the Defence.
                  Hi ECHT11,

                  Have you looked at the defence ?
                  What do you think?

                  Thanks

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Fill in the missing bits. Read through it several tImes, if your happy with it, it can be lodged with the Court via MCOL.


                    In the Northampton County Court Civil Business Centre.

                    Claim No: XXXXX

                    CLAIMANT: XXXXXXXXXX

                    DEFENDANT: XXX XXXXX


                    DEFENCE

                    1.The Defendant received the Claim XXXX from the Northampton County Court Civil Business Centre on 23rd January 2025.

                    2.Each allegation in the Claimants statement of case is denied unless specifically admitted in this Defence.

                    3.This claim appears to be for a Loan agreement regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

                    4.It is admitted that the Defendant has previously entered into an agreement with the original Creditor My Jar for provision of credit. Credit agreement number XXXX on XXXX. And supposedly an advance on the original loan on the XXX, which these current proceedings are based on against the Defendant.

                    5.The Claimants statement of case fails to give adequate information to enable me to properly assess my position with regards the claim. A request with a £1 postal order was sent by Recorded Delivery requesting that the Claimant send me a copy of the Credit Agreement for the loans, the statement for these loans and Default Notice. A reply from the Claimant by email was sent to me with 3 attachments, the annual statement dated XXX, a drawdown summary that was not dated and a Termination Notice dated XXXX, which does not have my full name or my address. It is addressed from My jar and to My Jar.

                    6.The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim fail to state when the agreement was entered.

                    7.The Defendant contends that the alleged debt is statute barred by virtue of Section 5 of the Limitations Act 1980 in that no payment or acknowledgment has been made for over 6 years. From 10.02.2017 to 02.04.24. The first of three statute barred letters were sent on 02.04.24 by the Defendant to the Claimants and its representatives, Moriarty Law and TM Legal.

                    8.The Claimants statement of case states that the account was assigned from the original Creditor My Jar to Claimant Perch Capital. The Defendant does not recall receiving the notice of this assignment.

                    9.It is denied that the original Creditor My Jar served any Default Notice on the Defendant pursuant to s87 Consumer Credit Act 1974. The Claimant is required to prove that a compliant Default Notice was served upon the Defendant. The Claimant is required to prove that any Default notice relied upon complied with the requirements of s88(4A) Consumer Credit Act 1974 and that the notice was in the prescribed form as required by The Consumer Credit Enforcement Default and Termination Notice Regulations 1983. The Claimant did not produce on request the said Default Notice, but instead produce a Termination Notice that does not have the Defendant full name, address, but was address from My Jar and to My Jar.

                    10.On the 04.10.24, the Defendant sent a request for inspection of documents mentioned in the Claimant’s statement of case under Civil Procedure Rule 31.14 to the Claimant, Perch Capital and its Solicitor, TM Legal. I requested the Claimant provide copies of the Credit Agreements, Statements of the loans, Default Notice and Notice of Assignment.

                    11. The Claimant’s Solicitor has not sent any of these documents to the Defendant. It however has sent the annual statement and a drawdown summary for the advance loan, which does not have the Defendants details and a Termination notice which also does not have the Defendants details on it.

                    12.On 04.10.24 The Defendant sent a formal request for a copy of the original agreement to Perch Capital pursuant to Section 77 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 along with the statutory £1 fee.

                    13.The Claimant has failed to comply with s77 (1) Consumer Credit Act 1974 and by virtue of s77 (4) Consumer Credit Act 1974 cannot enforce the said agreement.

                    15.Under Civil Procedure Rule 16.5 (4) Where the claim includes a money claim, a defendant shall be taken to require that any allegation relating to the amount of money claimed be proved unless he expressly admits the allegation. Therefore, it is expected that the Claimant be required to prove the allegation that the money is owed as claimed.

                    16.The Defendant respectfully requests the court orders the Claimants to provide the necessary documentation in order for The Defendant to fully plead his case else the Claim should stand struck out.

                    17.In the event that the relevant documents are received from the Claimant, the Defendant will then be in a position to amend his defence and would ask that the Claimants bear the costs of the amendment.

                    18.It is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief as claimed or at all.

                    Statement of Truth

                    I believe that the facts stated in this defence document are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

                    Signed ________________________________
                    Dated _______________________________


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                    • #11
                      Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        Hi All,

                        I just want to post a quick update and ask for further advise going forward.

                        The claimant has decided to go forward with the claim after I filled my defence.

                        I received an email from the Claimant with an attachment of their Directions Questionnaire. I then check my Online account and the court had updated the status as sending a DQ to me on the 21.03.25. I am yet to receive this form, so I called yesterday and a blank form was emailed to me, which I will complete today.

                        1.I will follow the guidelines and great advise on this forum to fill the form. Do I need to write a witness statement as well ?
                        2. Can I send this form by both email and post to the court and the claimant. I assume the deadline is 14 days from the date the DQ was sent?
                        3. Do I need to attached any other documents such as the ones sent to me by the claimants to the DQ, or it is too early to do this.
                        4. In the section for "Suitability for determination without a hearing", the Claimant ticked NO in their DQ. Their reason is that "the case is not suitable to be determined on paper due to the content of the Defence, and the need for a cross-examination of the Defendant".
                        I will thick the YES box in my DQ ( am assuming this is ok, based on the advise here).

                        Your comments, support and advise are greatly appreciated.

                        Thank you.

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                        • #13
                          If you've received the requested documentation, then you would like Mediation (it's free, not part of the Court process).
                          You send a Copy to the Solicitor and a copy to the Court. Make sure you get Proof of Postage.

                          https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...uestionnaire//

                          1.I will follow the guidelines and great advise on this forum to fill the form. Do I need to write a witness statement as well ?

                          No, you will do later on, but the Court will instruct you.

                          2. Can I send this form by both email and post to the court and the claimant. I assume the deadline is 14 days from the date the DQ was sent?

                          Yes, but better really to stick to one.

                          3. Do I need to attached any other documents such as the ones sent to me by the claimants to the DQ, or it is too early to do this.

                          No, too early.

                          4. In the section for "Suitability for determination without a hearing", the Claimant ticked NO in their DQ. Their reason is that "the case is not suitable to be determined on paper due to the content of the Defence, and the need for a cross-examination of the Defendant".
                          I will thick the YES box in my DQ ( am assuming this is ok, based on the advise here).

                          The advice is 'NO', you want to attend the Hearing in person. You want to make your case.

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                          • #14
                            Hi

                            I just want to post a quick update.

                            The mediation process went as scheduled.

                            The mediator called, listened to my case as outlined here in previous post, then went to talk to the claimant lawyer.

                            They denied denied that a firm had previously dropped the case because I sent a status barred letter. They claimed that the said loan was not status barred because of termination letter/ default letter sent to me.

                            I informed the mediator that they never sent any default and the letters sent by email did not comply with the consumers act.

                            They kept denying these.

                            The conclusion was that if they can send my the so called compliant letters from the original creditor, then we can come into an arrangement. They agreed to send the letters by recorded mail, but threatened that the arrangement will extra charges on the outstanding debt, unless I agree now to their terms.

                            I informed the mediator that I will wait for the letters and act accordingly.
                            it's been over 4 weeks and I am yet to receive anything.

                            The case has been transferred to my local court and I am awaiting a date.

                            Thanks to everyone for your help once again.

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                            • #15
                              What I would do today is write / email a 'Without Prejudice - Save as to Costs', to whoever you had the Mediation with i.e. solicitors / creditors.

                              This must be written on the letter - 'Without Prejudice - Save as to Costs'.

                              Summarize what happened in the Mediation and what the creditor said they would do, but hasn't done i.e. send you the documents.

                              This won't help at present, but will help after the case. The Judge will only look at the letter after the case, i.e. conduct of the creditor / any costs against.

                              Mediation isn't part of the Court process, it's independant. So needs to be put aside.

                              Comment

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