Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

[ostell]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Hold it !!! So you didn't have anything from the store in your possession when you were stopped outside the store ?

Ooohhhh Could be nasy for HIM !

[Charley123]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Hello yes I left the shop for 2 seconds he came up and approached me and was talking to me really nice saying "we have just seen you on cctv putting an item into your pocket" I admitted it straight away as I was caught! That when he turns nasty he said right I'm going to get my badge out he did the whole police thing where they show their badge. (He had a black wallet and opened it up) he then said he has the right to arrest me, he was saying (very angrily) "where are the goods) he looked like he was grunting his teeth! I threw the goods into a toilet bin. A lady was in the loo so we was waiting outside she hadn't even opened the door properly and he was telling me to go in I told him "to wait for the lady to actuall leave" he got the goods out the bin (the 2 I stole) then carried on looking through the bin 😂 Lol. He said to me "I'm going to serch you when we are back in the office). He never searched me.

[Charley123]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Yes I paid for the good £18. The security guard wouldn't let me keep the receipt because he said I was not allowed to return stolen good. He also said "I will let you keep these because you've paid for them usually we have to burn the stolen goods" I was like right ok. I just think he was trying to scare me and maybe make me cry! I didn't cry and was not scared. I'm just worried because he told me I have to pay a fine of £135. I didn't sign anything while I was in the room! He just seemed like he had not caught anyone for ages and was on a high.

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The security guard was shouting at me saying that the PCSO would call me and if I didn't answer my phone they would basically hunt me down. :/ yes she did record everything when we was in the room. He started asking if I earn money & where I worked when he asked them questions I said "why do you want to know" and he said "I'm only asking" I didn't feel in my rights I had to tell him this so I didn't.

[wales01man]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Think you met the local moron who has no power or rights over you youpaid for the goods.
Can I ask if you actually left the shop

[des8]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Hi and welcome

That security ape not only has issues, he's got problems if your sister witnessed you being bullied and recorded it.
You could easily make a complaint about your treatment, but I anticipate that quite understandably you would not want to.

I assume that having paid for the goods, you were allowed to keep them.

As per Charity, you won't be hearing from the police, & you will not be watched even for one minute, let alone 24 hour surveillance

You will receive demands and threatening letters from RLP which you can safely ignore.
They work on the basis of pressurising vulnerable people.

Ignore them, Get on with your life.

[charitynjw]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Hi Carley123, & welcome to Legal Beagles.

Sounds like the security has got 'issues' of his own, lol.

Why do you think a PCSO will visit; have you asked them to? Did the manager contact the police? (I doubt it, the police would normally come to the shop)

I reckon the most that will happen is that you'll receive a demand for money from an outfit like Retail Loss Prevention, saying they represent the shop etc, etc.

If that happens, let us know (on this thread) - do not pay the leeches one red cent!

& as for the security officer, you mention that your sister recorded the incident?.........

[Carley123]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Hey blue bottle can I have some help please. I got caught today shop lifting in boots I was taken to a room out the back of the store and asked to hand over the goods ect. The security officer was very harsh towards me wouldn't let me talk was shouting over me and saying some pretty nasty things calling me a little girl :/ I know I did wrong it's the first time I have ever done something like this it was very stupid and I don't even know why I did it!!!! I regret it so much. Anyway he gave me letters as I am banned and he has gave me a letter about paying a fine? But I didn't quite get what it was for because I was in shock and it was all such a blur :/. When he asked for my ID witch has my own address on as I live on my own. I forgot what address was on my license and I said what address is on it and he said why what other address do you have and he didn't believe me that the address on my licence was my address he then went on to say if I did something like this again I would spend the night in a cell where people piss and have been sick :/ when I left he told me that I will be constantly watched whenever I am in town now. Surely I have rights to something? It was my first crime ever I made a mistake and he was looking & talking to me like I was a criminal. I know I did wrong but I shouldn't be watched for the rest of my life for it. The products came to £18 and I paid for them after as I was asked to and the manager said he didn't want to call the police because it wasn't a massive amount. The security guard was really trying to push him to call the police I feel like he was making it a lot bigger and worse than it actually was. I know theft is a stupid and bad thing but I have learnt my lesson I really have. I'm waiting for a PSO from my local town to contact me I feel like I'm going to explain how he made me feel. I just want to know where I stand because I have been reading loads onlike saying to not pay the fine? My sister even recorded it all because he was being so harsh.

[bluebottle]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

At the present time, Boots have compromised their case by letting the security goon behave in the way he did and their employee failing to take any action to stop the security goon searching your bag. Wait and see what RLP have to say before bringing up about the use of duress and coercion. My gut-instinct is that RLP will have enough to deal with trying to explain the unlawful searching of your bag. They would be very foolish, as would Boots, to try and push it knowing an unlawful act had been committed by their client that would raise questions of culpability in a court of law.

[thepinkranger]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Unlawfully searching your bag is going to compromise any case they may think they have. The italicised passage you have suggested would come into play if RLP and Boots were foolish enough to attempt to pursue any proceedings with a view to going to court as this would form part of your defence, as pressuring someone or intimidating them is deemed to be use of duress or coercion.

So in another words, it doesn't matter as I would have already pointed out how the security goon acted unlawfully, and it won't exactly harm if I did include it?

[bluebottle]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Can I add this to the list?

• Any written or verbal consent which I may have given, although I do not recall giving any consent, were made under duress from your client's security contractor

Making me feel more intimidated or pressured is duress, right?

Unlawfully searching your bag is going to compromise any case they may think they have. The italicised passage you have suggested would come into play if RLP and Boots were foolish enough to attempt to pursue any proceedings with a view to going to court as this would form part of your defence, as pressuring someone or intimidating them is deemed to be use of duress or coercion.

[thepinkranger]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

As far as the alleged incident goes, I do not acknowledge or admit any liability whatsoever and none should be presumed or inferred. You are put on notice of the following -

• Your client's security contractor searched my bag without my consent, removed items from my bag, alleging I had stolen them, but offered no evidence to substantiate his allegations, even though I denied such allegations;
• placed me in a locked room which although could be unlocked from the inside was locked from the outside by means of a digital lock which required a code to be input into a keypad in order to gain entry;
• demanded my personal details and to fill in a form, which I never signed;
• one of your client's employees although in the room at the time, failed to take any action to stop your client's security contractor searching my bag; and
• both failed to observe and comply with statutory provisions governing the detention, questioning and dealing with of minors, that is, any person below the age of 18 years.

Can I add this to the list?

• Any written or verbal consent which I may have given, although I do not recall giving any consent, were made under duress from your client's security contractor

Making me feel more intimidated or pressured is duress, right? Like I said earlier in the post, the security officer kept on saying 'you're a bad girl' etc. which made me feel more intimidated and added to the pressure and panic I already had from being detained and being busted

[thepinkranger]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

Good point there. I'll let you know of the outcome as soon as possible (although that might be a while later since I realised only recently that my father don't even know about the letter and it's only between me and my mother)

[bluebottle]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

I know I said this couple of days ago but bluebottle and teaboy2, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME I GENUINELY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO THANK YOU ENOUGH

WITHOUT YOUR HELP I WOULD STILL BE CRYING BUCKETLOADS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT BLACKLIST EVEN THOUGH I PAID THE 'COMPENSATION' (don't worry, I haven't paid them a single penny yet)

I think you two can go celebrate and have a party for resolving a legal problem (of a random person you don't even know (#respect there)) successfully :P and I'm glad that I turned to Legal Beagles for advice

If I run into more worries or problems I'll post here and let you know

We'll put the celebrations on hold until we hear the final outcome of your case, PR. This is in case you need further help.

[thepinkranger]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

I know I said this couple of days ago but bluebottle and teaboy2, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME I GENUINELY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO THANK YOU ENOUGH

WITHOUT YOUR HELP I WOULD STILL BE CRYING BUCKETLOADS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT BLACKLIST EVEN THOUGH I PAID THE 'COMPENSATION' (don't worry, I haven't paid them a single penny yet)

I think you two can go celebrate and have a party for resolving a legal problem (of a random person you don't even know (#respect there)) successfully :P and I'm glad that I turned to Legal Beagles for advice

If I run into more worries or problems I'll post here and let you know

[thepinkranger]

Re: Letter from RLP after caught shoplifting from Boots

As Section 10, Data Protection Act 1998 does, indeed, give the data controller 21 days in which to inform the data subject of their intention to comply or not comply, stick with that.

Okay.