paying double rent

[Gorang]

Re: paying double rent

Totally agree but also

Even if the Boys in Blue :mod: :mod: :mod: start investigating the missing vehicles that doesn't prevent you from sending that letter which I would head Letter Before Action and identify the sum of money which you feel you are owed(I think it is also very important to come up with a full list of the stolen items as well as a value for them and also back that figure up with paperwork for replacement value, then get a LBA sent ASAP because IF there is any criminal proceedings a judge for that criminal proceedings may also award damages to injured parties at sentencing ie the cost of the things stolen BUT the judge will need to see some sort of proof to the value of items to prove the figure is not plucked out of the sky)and the date by which you expect it to be paid. The police will look into the theft of the cars but not necessarily the double-charge for renting the garages (I'm not sure about this one, because double rent being charged could poss be "gaining payment by fraudulent means" which also would be criminal, but I am only speculating with that one, think it will be down to a PF to decide that one I think, but I would try to push the cops in that direction if I could) which may still be a civil matter which they won't touch.

Also even if Puff doesn't get awarded any money from a criminal judge, it would still be very important to any civil case to get a LBA out ASAP and start putting the replacement proof together ASAP, as that WILL be needed for either criminal OR civil case,no mater what

Thinking about it the police will need a list of items and poss a value, BEFORE they can charge anyone with theft, will be better if you can back that up with any old pics you may have of the actual items being in the garages, because without some sort of proof or witnesses to say the items was in the garages, then I suspect it will be your word against the landlords

Me personally, I would get busy in this order

Listing everything stolen on paper
dig out old pics to back up what was in the garages
List any rental agreements and monies paid,
get a replacement value for everything stolen

Police may need the above first

then

Get a LBA sent to landlord
Also start listing any comms with landlord including phone calls you made to landlord backed up with phone bills if you still have them
Also get Zav to give you a statement saying what the landlord told him and also his entry date to the garages


But that's just me lol

[CleverClogs]

Re: paying double rent

"Zav" seems an odd name. Is it short for Xavier, or is he Zak's cousin?

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

I dont honestly know what Zav is short for, its a polish name, the letter is winging its way as we speak

Have picked the brains of a friend who deals used cars about approx values

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

my friend in the Trade has quoted as a "conservative" estimate, mini cooper £20, 000
Land rover in need to revovation £2000.00

rent 10,800

total costs we are looking to claim, £33,000

Does anyone think this is excessive for what has gone? we cant work out the bike parts as that was frames and gears and things.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

Cel, if you think you or Watsons can help me, I will be forever in your debt.

[wales01man]

Re: paying double rent

With respect to you Puff why on earth did you leave 20 grands worth of motors in an Essex lockup while you live in Yorkshire?

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

couldnt afford to move them hun
we were planning on doing them up and selling them, but it all went wrong

[wales01man]

Re: paying double rent

Buddy dell I just hope it works out for you expect it will be a long hard slog
GOOD LUCK Im rooting for you

[CleverClogs]

Re: paying double rent

my friend in the Trade has quoted as a "conservative" estimate, mini cooper £20, 000
Land rover in need to revovation £2000.00

rent 10,800

total costs we are looking to claim, £33,000

Does anyone think this is excessive for what has gone? we cant work out the bike parts as that was frames and gears and things.

I do not believe it is nearly enough, as you seem to have omitted the value of the trailers and of any tools that were also stolen.

[PlanB]

Re: paying double rent

Cel, if you think you or Watsons can help me, I will be forever in your debt.

Watsons are no more and Cel and PT have moved to another firm:

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...263#post366263

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

if im honest, i would be happy to just get the price of the rent back,
10,000 is a life changing amount to us, and I mean, life changing. anything over that is incredible. the trailers, Mr R is valuing about £500, the tools were spares..

I am scared of asking for too much incase it seems we are on a money grab, we just want back what we are owed, namely the rent for the garages and (hopefully) the cars.. i know im a bit of a ditz, but this amount of money truely frightens me.

[wales01man]

Re: paying double rent

Don't sell youself short claim for everthing you can prove you had in the lockups and the rent Its your right to.

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

i know I have you guys "holding my hand" and trust me with this amount, I am truely grateful.

I might be leaning on you a bit while this is going on, so bear with me guys, you know I will follow your advice to the letter

Just having a little freak out after reading the amounts I have just written down.

[PlanB]

Re: paying double rent

my friend in the Trade has quoted as a "conservative" estimate, mini cooper £20, 000
Land rover in need to revovation £2000.00

rent 10,800

total costs we are looking to claim, £33,000 .

Are these vehicles insured (third party fire and theft if they were not on the road?) because if so you should report the theft to your insurance company immediately even if you don't claim off your policy. If you are unlucky in recovering the money through the county court from Garage Man then at least you will have a fall-back position.

I would claim the whole rental term of the garages even though it's possible that the cars were there for some/most/all of the time until the recent theft. Garage Man would have to prove you wrong.

What's happened to the classic Mini :noidea:

[Hurricane Puffrose]

Re: paying double rent

i have no idea about the insurance, leaving that part to the Man.

the mini, cos it needed renovation my mate has quoted about 20k in the state it was..

Plan B, writing it down makes it more real, and im sitting here thinking, im claiming more than i paid for my house, I wish I could find someone to do this for me, its too big for me, but I will give it a bloody good shot