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Latest Update on PPI Judicial Review - NO APPEAL - get your claims in......

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  • MBD23
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    Nicola Northway



    The controversy surrounding payment protection *insurance (PPI) dates back to 1998 when Which? magazine published a report alleging that policies were regularly *being mis-sold to *consumers. It claimed customers who bought PPI - which is used to cover payments on *credit cards, loans and mortgages
    in cases of illness or unemployment - were rarely able to compare prices and terms or switch providers, and were often unaware that they could purchase *insurance from other companies.
    Over the next seven years similar allegations were made in the national press, but the issue only really took off when the Citizens Advice Bureau *issued a super-complaint to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) in 2005. The OFT *carried out a market *investigation, and two years later it formally referred the *matter to the Competition Commission.




    The big bang came in January 2009 with the publication of the commission’s final report on PPI, which concluded that there were *”serious *deficiencies” in the competitive process for the sale of PPI.
    Some of the recommendations had a big impact on *companies selling PPI, particularly the major UK banks. They included a ban on selling PPI to customers at point-of-sale (companies would have to wait at least seven days to make an *approach) and a ban on selling single-premium PPI *policies, where the premium is paid in one upfront payment.
    While the report sent shockwaves through the financial services community it was *Barclays that emerged as the *forerunner in challenging it. While Barclays voluntarily stopped selling single-*premium policies after the *report was published, what most concerned it was the point-of-sale ban. Its *opposition was coordinated by group competition law managing director Nicola Northway, the former Ofgem general counsel who joined
    the bank in 2005.
    “When the commission came out with its final report we were *concerned about several points, chiefly the prohibition on selling PPI at point-of-sale,” says Northway. “Obviously people should be *allowed to go away and shop around, but most like to take out insurance when they get credit. We felt taking away this option would reduce *competition.”
    Barclays accepted all the recommendations in the *commission report except two - the point-of-sale ban and the scope of the market definition made by the commission.
    Recommendations by the commission to remedy an adverse effect on competition or customers can be pursued under Section 134 of the
    Enterprise Act 2002.
    Northway and her team decided to appeal the recommendations under *Section 179 of the same act. Companies have just two months from the publication
    of the final report to lodge an *appeal, so the team had to move fast. And things were further *complicated by the fact that from a legal perspective, they were in uncharted *terrain.
    Challenging times
    On the day the appeal was lodged, no company had successfully challenged recommendations made in a final report by the commission, although in April 2009 Tesco successfully appealed against recommendations made in a market *investigation into the supply of *groceries in the UK.
    “We moved first, so in many ways we were in new territory,” says Northway. “That was exciting for us - it was nice to be at the cutting edge of
    competition.”
    The five-day hearing began on 7 September 2009. *Northway was responsible for pulling together the bank’s response to the recommendations, working with colleagues from the regulatory, compliance and consumer departments.
    “Things aren’t straight forward competition anymore,” she says. “We can’t say, ’this is a competition matter and we’re *running it’. The scope of the market studies means there’s a lot of crossover with other *departments.”
    Northway also coordinated the bank’s legal advisers. The bank turned to longstanding adviser Clifford Chance, with a team led by global antitrust *litigation chief Elizabeth *Morony and competition *partner Oliver Bretz.
    When Northway joined she was the only competition lawyer at the bank. Fortunately, by the time the PPI *issue had taken off, the team included five lawyers.
    The judgment was handed down in October 2009 and Barclays became only the second company to successfully appeal commission recommendations at the Competition Appeal Tribunal, forcing the commission to reassess its stance on the point-of-sale prohibition. Its appeal against the scope of the investigation was not upheld.
    “Often, people think it’s more exciting to be in a law firm doing competition - they think all we do is sit around *advising external counsel,”
    says Northway.
    Despite the success of the appeal, the banks had another *setback in May 2010 when the commission published its *provisional decision on the point-of-sale issue, in which it *continued to *support prohibition. This was reiterated last November when the commission’s draft remedies order on PPI again supported the ban. The final remedies order is *expected in February 2011.

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  • MBD23
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    my view NLp for what it is worth is with you invested in 5 cmc's , you probably got more at stake here than anyone. And more to lose. Obviously very wound up by the whole affair, and its coming out sideways in attempting to wind other people up. If the decision goes against you then you will be able to come on here and really get it out your system about winding others up how you told them all along the banks would win, whilst inside being the most wound up person of all. I know you heard early and mitigated your losses but that doesnt really change much does it. Seems a bitter and twisted perverse sense of humour brought on by stress&boredom
    Just my opinion

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  • NLP
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    nothing new to really see.

    writing. wall. etc.

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  • cappo
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    apologies if this is a repeat of something thats been posted on here before i know EXC posted up a KPMG report


    http://www.kpmg.com/UK/en/IssuesAndI...45BILLION.aspx

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  • cappo
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    Originally posted by EXC View Post
    It's disappointing that the FOS felt concerned enough to write to Claims Management Companies about the delays but not individual claimants.
    consumers are always the last to know EXC.

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  • EXC
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    It's disappointing that the FOS felt concerned enough to write to Claims Management Companies about the delays but not individual claimants.

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  • ncf355
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    So, again, someone needs to kick arse somewhere to get the banks to start processing claims in a fair and reasonable manner (both during and after the JR)
    Last edited by ncf355; 18th March 2011, 18:04:PM.

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  • EXC
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    Article from The Times:



    ''Consumers mis-sold payment protection insurance (PPI) may have to wait more than a year for compensation after the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) said that a judicial review brought by the banks has led to a dramatic jump in its workload.
    In a letter sent to the bosses of claims management companies, which fight for refunds for consumers, Nathan Horner, head of the team handling PPI claims at the FOS, writes: “The court action is leading to delays both for cases that are directly affected and other complaints about the sale of payment protection insurance.

    “Unfortunately this means there will be a delay in progressing the PPI complaints you have with us. While I am not able to give you a timeframe at this stage, I’m afraid some cases are likely to take over a year to be resolved depending on when and how the legal action is concluded.”


    The letter refers to a judicial review brought by the banks against the Financial Services Authority and Financial Ombudsman Service, which began in the High Court in January.


    A number of banks, including Lloyds, Barclays and HSBC, have put complaints on hold pending the outcome of the review. The FOS said the freeze on claims had forced more consumers to push complaints its way - it has received 43,000 PPI complaints since Christmas compared to 49,196 cases in the whole of the last financial year.


    A spokesman for the FOS said: “The ombudsman is continuing to deal with PPI cases - and consumers can still refer their complaint to the ombudsman service if they feel they’ve not been dealt with fairly by the financial business involved.
    “While up to now we’ve been able to resolve the majority of PPI cases within six months, due to the ongoing legal challenge by some banks - and the way that these businesses are dealing with complaints - it is likely that cases will take longer to sort out moving forward. This does not affect the way that the ombudsman service is dealing with complaints about any other issue.”

    The judicial review centres on a complaint by the British Bankers Association (BBA) that new rules introduced by the FSA governing the way PPI is sold will be used to assess complaints about policies that were taken out before the new regime came in. It also does not like the way the FOS is using the new rules when it assesses complaints that have been referred to it by consumers.


    It is unclear when the outcome of the case will be known, but it is not expected this month.


    PPI is an insurance policy taken out alongside credit cards, mortgages and loans to cover monthly repayments if the holder is ill or loses their job. It has been engulfed in a mis-selling scandal in recent years after it became apparent that lenders were often not bothering to check whether a customer would be eligible to claim. In other cases customers were wrongly told that they had to buy the insurance to be able to take out a loan, or the policy was added to the cost of the loan without the customer even being told.


    Daniella Lipszyc, and director of law firm Ultimatelawltd.com, said: “The banks are doing everything they can to skirt around the issue. For example, a lender recently agreed that it had mis-sold a PPI policy to a client of mine, but would not pay compensation until after the outcome of the judicial review. Three months later, my client received a compensation payment from the lender.


    “Although it was good news for my client, it shows that the whole system is in a mess and that most lenders will continue to hide behind the judicial review for as long as possible. Even if the judgment goes against the banks, I’ve no doubt they’ll appeal, thus delaying the handling of complaints even further.”


    Potential claimants should remember that the FOS is free, but claims management companies will charge a fee for their services''

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  • cappo
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    have you had your dinner yet tonight well what about this tasty treat,see below


    Top 10 banking stories of 2010 - in pictures - Telegraph

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  • cappo
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    Originally posted by EXC View Post
    PMSL

    ''Charter UK engage with the finance industry’s biggest companies to help them manage their customer complaints and feedback in a way that benefits the whole business. We understand the needs of the industry and have developed a specialist package to help you deal with PPI Remediation quickly and efficiently.''

    ''The ‘PPI configured’ solution, part of Charter Continuum, is targeted solely at UK financial services organisations preparing to execute a large scale customer contact and remediation program, having identified a potential breach of the FSA principles in relation to advised sales of single premium PPI (Payment Protection Insurance) policies.
    ''

    http://www.charter-uk.com/pdfs/Chart...Case-Study.pdf

    And who will be sponsoring the BBA's Complaints Seminar in May? Step forward Charter UK.

    BBA - The voice of banking and financial services - Events And Training - Event - Complaints Seminar1
    sounds like the dwp exc decisions via a computer program,great,who,ll be the losers there,surprise surprise.

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  • EXC
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    PMSL

    ''Charter UK engage with the finance industry’s biggest companies to help them manage their customer complaints and feedback in a way that benefits the whole business. We understand the needs of the industry and have developed a specialist package to help you deal with PPI Remediation quickly and efficiently.''

    ''The ‘PPI configured’ solution, part of Charter Continuum, is targeted solely at UK financial services organisations preparing to execute a large scale customer contact and remediation program, having identified a potential breach of the FSA principles in relation to advised sales of single premium PPI (Payment Protection Insurance) policies.
    ''

    http://www.charter-uk.com/pdfs/Chart...Case-Study.pdf

    And who will be sponsoring the BBA's Complaints Seminar in May? Step forward Charter UK.

    BBA - The voice of banking and financial services - Events And Training - Event - Complaints Seminar1

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  • cappo
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    our old friend angie having a rant about the unfairness of being picked on by the regulator/customer


    BBA - The voice of banking and financial services - Media - Article - Cbi Senior Executive Lunch Birmingham - Speeches
    Last edited by cappo; 17th March 2011, 00:01:AM.

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  • cappo
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    Originally posted by Class Act View Post
    Well they would have that viewpoint wouldn't they?

    Simple fact of the matter is virtually all complaints made since Oct have been put on "hold" and that includes clear ICOB/ICOBS breaches, something which the JR has nothing to do with.

    We all know that the BBA is using the JR as an excuse to park ALL complaints. Simple.

    I suspect big fines will be forthcoming over the next few months, however what will a few million quid mean to L/TSB, HSBC and the like...while the consumer suffers yet again!!!!!
    i agree class act mine have now all been put on hold and have nothing to do with the j.r, the banks have got there heads together and i really believe the bankers think there,s safety in numbers

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  • EXC
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    Still no listing yet but watch this space.


    Originally posted by Tom Brennan View Post
    There is still no date yet for the handing down of judgment. I'm calling Justice Ousley's clerk on a daily basis, and will do so tomorrow and Friday. I'll give you a call if I hear anything.

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  • cappo
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    Originally posted by Class Act View Post
    Well they would have that viewpoint wouldn't they?

    Simple fact of the matter is virtually all complaints made since Oct have been put on "hold" and that includes clear ICOB/ICOBS breaches, something which the JR has nothing to do with.

    We all know that the BBA is using the JR as an excuse to park ALL complaints. Simple.

    I suspect big fines will be forthcoming over the next few months, however what will a few million quid mean to L/TSB, HSBC and the like...while the consumer suffers yet again!!!!!
    i think it all boils down to the fact that the banks have been ripping us all off without mercy or shame for years,they,ve gone against there and the regulators own codes of conduct i for one will be watching the result of this j.r very closely. as i,m sure you all will, will it be a victory for the man in the street or will it be a whitewash, i think banks have lost a lot of credibility either way.

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