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  • RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

    Overdrafts: RBS-NatWest rejig charges

    Overdraft charges have been a source of much anger among consumers
    The Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) is overhauling its charges for people who go overdrawn without permission.
    Customers will be charged £6 a day for any unauthorised overdraft of more than £6, leading to significant costs for those who linger in the red.
    But interest charges on these overdrafts, of up to 20%, will be scrapped when changes come in for all RBS and NatWest customers in February.
    Overdraft charges were the subject of a recent major court battle.


    Banks defeated the Office of Fair Trading's attempt to regulate bank charges following a long-running legal case, but many have since made changes to their charging structures.
    Simplicity RBS, of which NatWest is a subsidiary, said that pressure from customers to simplify the system had led to the proposed changes.
    Now three different charges - the maintenance charge, the paid referral fee, and the guaranteed card payment fee - will be merged into the single unarranged overdraft fee of £6 a day.
    This will not be charged to customers with a basic bank account, which generally does not have any overdraft facility, nor to those with a student or graduate account.
    Another fee for a bounced cheque, direct debit or standing order will go up from £5 to £6 for each item - up to a maximum of £60. This charge stood at £38 just over a year ago.
    No interest will be charged on the amount overdrawn without permission. At present, this is about 15% to 20% a year.
    Latest change At the start of October last year, RBS - which is majority-owned by the taxpayer - moved to cut its overdraft charges ahead of many of its rivals.

    • £6 a day for an unauthorised overdraft of more than £6
    • £6 for each bounced cheque, direct debit or standing order, up to a maximum charge of £60
    • Interest on unauthorised overdrafts scrapped


    The charge for a payment on an overdrawn account was cut from £30 to £15. The same happened to the guaranteed card payment fee. The charge for an overdrawn account was reduced from £28 to £20 a month.
    It has now been announced that from February 2011, these three will be merged to the unarranged overdraft fee of £6 a day - leaving the charge cheaper for those who briefly go into the red without permission, but potentially more for those with a long-term unauthorised overdraft.
    None of the changes affect those with an overdraft facility that has been arranged in advance.
    "We asked our customers about products and charges and they told us they wanted them to be simply and easy to understand," said Susie Wands, head of overdrafts at RBS.
    However, banks have been under some pressure from the government - which said in its coalition document that it intended to strengthen consumer protection in the area of bank charges.
    RBS said that it would also introduce a text message and e-mail service to warn customers that they would be charged for going into the red.


    BBC News - Overdrafts: RBS-NatWest rejig charges
    "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
    (quote from David Ogden Stiers)
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    Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

    Well I think I'd rather them bounce the items instead of let the take me into unauthorised overdraft. This month my charges for o'draft would have been about 2 weeks worth so that's 84 quid, as opposed to two paid referrals and a bounce and an unauthorised o/d fee which would be 63 I think. When they say they will be charging by the day, presumably this would include weekends?
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      Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

      Blimey if someone went overdrawn and could not pay it back until the following month that would amount to £168 for someone paid 4 weekly.

      They are taking the p*** now.
      If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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        Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

        And this is simplifying things! It seems the banks can do anything they want!

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          I wonder if they will inform their customers in good time and give them the option to switch banks if they so wish ?

          PF
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            Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

            Originally posted by WendyB View Post
            Well I think I'd rather them bounce the items instead of let the take me into unauthorised overdraft. This month my charges for o'draft would have been about 2 weeks worth so that's 84 quid, as opposed to two paid referrals and a bounce and an unauthorised o/d fee which would be 63 I think. When they say they will be charging by the day, presumably this would include weekends?
            Do you want me to ask them?
            "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
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              Yes please....
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                Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

                Originally posted by WendyB View Post
                Yes please....
                Wendy, can I ask you or, in fact, any other person who has been charged with NatWest/RBS to compare how they would have been charged say 1 year ago when the charges were £38 unpaid item, etc,etc, the current charges, and then the proposed charges coming into force from February.
                It would be good to have some data to present to the OFT with regards to future PCA related issues.

                Thanks in advance
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                  Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

                  RBS and NatWest make changes to bank charges - October - 2010 - Which? News





                  The Which? verdict on RBS and NatWest's new bank charges

                  The new charges will prove cheaper for some customers - especially those who only dip into an unarranged overdraft only occasionally and for short periods of time. For example: someone who makes a payment which takes them into an unarranged overdraft, makes a further payment while overdrawn and is in the red for two days in a row during the month currently pays £50 plus interest. Under the new charges, they'd pay just £12.
                  But someone who is overdrawn for 21 days a month and who makes 12 payments while they are overdrawn will pay £126 when the new charges take effect, compared to £110 now. Meanwhile, someone who is continuously overdrawn could pay £180 a month when the new fee structure is adopted - which could, in some cases, be more than they currently pay.
                  James Daley, Editor of Which? Money, said: 'It's encouraging to see RBS has introduced a new service which should help customers avoid slipping over their overdraft limit in the first place.

                  However, the difficulty for anyone who is looking for a new bank account today is that almost every bank has an entirely different way of charging for their overdrafts - making it almost impossible to compare which accounts are best for your circumstances. We want the industry to work together to help customers compare the different accounts and charges, so that they can easily work out which one is most suitable for their needs.

                  In the meantime, we'd advise people to check the fees and charges very carefully before signing up to a new bank account, and check that they represent good value for their circumstances.'
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                  Key Natwest and RBS overdraft fee changes
                  • The following charges will all disappear: the £20 monthly fee for being over your limit, the £15 charge (max. £90 per month) for any day a transaction is authorised that takes you over or keeps you over your limit, and the £15 fee (max. £90 per month) for each transaction authorised by a cheque guarantee card that takes you or keeps you over your limit. The £15 fees are only charged if £15 or more over your limit. There is no buffer for the £20 monthly fee.
                  • They will be replaced with a £6 per day fee for every day you remain in an unarranged overdraft, if over a £6 buffer. This is charged if the account is overlimit at the end of a day.
                  • The £5 fee for a rejected transaction (max £50 per month) rises to £6 (max. £60 per month).

                  Anyone with a basic, graduate or student account won't incur any daily unarranged overdraft fees but will be hit by the new rejected transaction charge.
                  The model is similar to Halifax and Bank of Scotland's (Hbos) £5 per day fee for exceeding your limit. While RBS charges while in an unarranged overdraft are higher, Hbos's £1 per day for an arranged overdraft has angered many customers.
                  There will be no change to Natwest or RBS's fees for arranged overdrafts where interest is charged at up to 19.89%, with no daily fees.


                  MSE recap on the charges:
                  RBS and Natwest to rejig bank charges - MoneySavingExpert News
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                  I should add that Students have ALWAYS been charged on rejected transaction charges/Unpaid items so not sure why they have emphasised that bit.
                  Last edited by leclerc; 27th October 2010, 05:09:AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
                  "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
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                    Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

                    so in short if you are on a good wage it will cost you very little as you can afford to pay any UOD sooner but if your wage is low and live month to month with very little if any spare cash it will cost you dear thats it in laymans
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                    • #11
                      Re: RBS/NatWest rejig the charges(yet another guide to be done, lol!!)

                      Anyone been through and done the six scenarios with the new charges ?
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