Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

[Amethyst]

If there are cases that are not dealt with correctly under the correct enforcement structure could you post a brief summary in this thread and a link to the relevant post.

Also could somebody also post the relevant part of the legislation which backs up that ''If a bailiff company takes on a case before 6th April OLD RULES APPLY throughout the life of their involment in the enforcement.''

Thank you.

[BeagleyBailiff]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

All coming in the next Sticky which will be up later today. Just to clarify, the old process is only good for the life of that enforcement IF the agreement is adhered to. If the agreement is broken, the case will revert to the new arrangements. It is all spelt out clearly in the new sticky.

[Sir Vere Brayne d'Emmidge]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

If there are cases that are not dealt with correctly under the correct enforcement structure could you post a brief summary in this thread and a link to the relevant post.

Also could somebody also post the relevant part of the legislation which backs up that ''If a bailiff company takes on a case before 6th April OLD RULES APPLY throughout the life of their involment in the enforcement.''

Thank you.

Only the financial part of it i.e. HMCTS warrants compliance fee £85 attendance fee £215

But as of 6th of Aprilthe defaulter, now known as the debtor, can expect a visit at 6am on a Sunday, sole traders with tools worth more than £1,350 see the excess being seized, before it was only £250.

[wales01man]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

So you condone the Bailiff taking someones tools of the trade how are they supposed to pay the Debt and fees I have never seen anything you stupid

[BeagleyBailiff]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

Correct Wales - it potentially allows for the Enforcement Agent to remove the ability of the debtor to work at all. The new regulations are a mess. The next 'Sticky' will be up very shortly.

[bizzybob]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

Correct Wales - it potentially allows for the Enforcement Agent to remove the ability of the debtor to work at all. The new regulations are a mess. The next 'Sticky' will be up very shortly.

A mechanics tool kit if snap on will be worth around 3K, or more so if they take a mobile mechanics van and tools they will be putting someone straight onto a JSA sanction, and still not get enough to cover their exiting new fees for sale and storage etc.

[BeagleyBailiff]

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Storage is another major issue as it was not the intention to charge storage. The fact that EA's can potentially charge a Removal for Sale fee at the same time could hike the £235 Enforcement Stage fee up to £345.00 . Say the EA then charges £10 - £20 per day storage, a small debt could escalate very quickly indeed in the hands of an unscrupulous EA. SEE LINK HERE

[Sir Vere Brayne d'Emmidge]

Re: Old Rules vs New Rules - changeover period cases

So you condone the Bailiff taking someones tools of the trade how are they supposed to pay the Debt and fees I have never seen anything you (I suppose you mean "so") stupid

Wales I am not condoning anything, just stating a fact.

Let's not forget that if someone is visited by bailiffs it is not the bailiff that decided to visit, but they have a Court Order.

I will relentlessly pursue rougue bailiffs who break the law, but at the same time I have no time for the 99.9% of those who get visits because they have not paid a debt in time.

[wales01man]

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Some of those people SIRVERE do not have the money to pay the debt so adding fees and taking away their ability to earn a living gets us where AOE or AOB must be the best way forward the councils can do this without using bailiffs so why not.
If the system was not corrupt before it soon will be lets get away from commercial interests in debt collection and get councils to work at getting the money

[BeagleyBailiff]

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This has been discussed at length with the councils. Many councils will use an Attachment of Earnings / Benefits, but can't if all the letters they send asking debtors to contact them are ignored.

[Milo]

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I am putting together clear (and simple) Guidance this weekend on a variety of subjects regarding the new regulations which can be used as 'Sticky's'. here on the forum. These will be addressing various subjects such as:

The position regarding debts (Liability Orders, road traffic debts and Magistrate Court fines) issued to the enforcement company BEFORE 6th April.

The changes that take effect AFTER 6th April including:

Terminology (such as the word 'bailiff' becoming 'enforcement agent' etc)

The fees

Exempt items

Vulnerability

etc