Marston Fees - does this sound right?

[jtwinkle]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

Indolent and ignorant. Apart from shooting people every few years, one might wonder what good the Sussex Police Farce does.

I have been at a fake chemical decontamination this evening (emergency service training). There were lots of police there drinking tea and looking decorative. Not entirely sure what they did other than that though!

[bluebottle]

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You were right, Police say the bailiffs have done nothing that requires a criminal investigation, they are just 'misbehaving'. They just asked me to report to trading standards, which I have done via the Citizens Advice Consumer helpline, who also advised me to speak to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

Sussex Police needs disbanding, along with City of London Police. If Marstons were claiming only lawful fees, then, it might be just "misbehaving", but, in this case, it involves a bailiff extorting more than the law permits. I have the email address of Marston's CEO if you would like me to PM it to you.

gareth.hughes@marstongroup.co.uk

Oh dear. I wonder how it suddenly appeared in this post? :grin:

[bluebottle]

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I have been at a fake chemical decontamination this evening (emergency service training). There were lots of police there drinking tea and looking decorative. Not entirely sure what they did other than that though!

Farted loudly, scratched their groins and generally got in the way. :grin:

[jtwinkle]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

Sussex Police needs disbanding, along with City of London Police. If Marstons were claiming only lawful fees, then, it might be just "misbehaving", but, in this case, it involves a bailiff extorting more than the law permits. I have the email address of Marston's CEO if you would like me to PM it to you.

gareth.hughes@marstongroup.co.uk

Oh dear. I wonder how it suddenly appeared in this post? :grin:

Oh dear however did that happen! Will write him an email in the morning, I can't believe they are allowed to get away with this. It will be nice to let him know every agency I've reported them to today.

[CleverClogs]

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I have the email address and phone numbers of Marston's CEO if you would like me to PM it to you.

gareth.hughes@marstongroup.co.uk
Telephone : 01992 703744
Mobile: 07834 748192

I've fixed your post for you.

Oh dear. I wonder how it suddenly appeared in this post? :grin:

Indeed.

Wouldn't it be a pity if some mischievous person were to put those 'phone numbers on a 'tart card' and leave it in the loos of gay pubs as being a bum-hole for hire? msl:

[bizzybob]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

I've fixed your post for you.


Indeed.

Wouldn't it be a pity if some mischievous person were to put those 'phone numbers on a 'tart card' and leave it in the loos of gay pubs as being a bum-hole for hire? msl:

OUCH ?) A right pain in the bum, bet he changes his mobile quick smart.

However he must be told that his bailiffs are out of control, and he could end up in the dock with them.

[bluebottle]

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Oh dear however did that happen! Will write him an email in the morning, I can't believe they are allowed to get away with this. It will be nice to let him know every agency I've reported them to today.

Including the fact that DVLA are well p*ssed-off with them over the clamp? :grin:

[bluebottle]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

Wouldn't it be a pity if some mischievous person were to put those 'phone numbers on a 'tart card' and leave it in the loos of gay pubs as being a bum-hole for hire? msl:

Naughty Cloggy! :grin:

[jtwinkle]

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Is the vehicle signwritten, i.e. has some form of advertising on it showing it is used for trade purposes? Also, does your husband's motor insurance cover business use?

The fees are way out of what they should be. it looks as if the bailiff was reading The Brothers' Grimm Book of Bailiff Fees when he wrote up the account.

The fees should be as follows -

PCN + Court Fee = £82.00
Letter Fee = £11.20
Attend to Levy on £93.20 = £28.00
Attend to Remove/Removal Costs = £0.00 because the disingenuous so-and-so didn't remove
VAT on £39.20 @ 20% = £7.84
Total = £129.04

By my calculations, the bailiff has overcharged by some £302.05. Let other Beagles look in and check my calculations, but I am pretty sure you have been grossly overcharged.

On the VAT bit should it be VAT on £93.20 instead of £39.20?? Therefore £18.64 instead of £7.84?

[bluebottle]

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On the VAT bit should it be VAT on £93.20 instead of £39.20?? Therefore £18.64 instead of £7.84?

Let me explain -

PCN + Court Fee = £82.00 Exempt from VAT
Letter Fee = £11.20 Subject to VAT @ 20%
Attend to Levy on £93.20 = £28.00 Subject to VAT @ 20%
Attend to Remove/Removal Costs = £0.00 because the disingenuous so-and-so didn't remove
VAT on £39.20 @ 20% = £7.84
Total = £129.04

Any bailiff or bailiff company caught adding VAT to fines and/or court costs is asking to get a visit from HMRC as that amounts to VAT Fraud.

[jtwinkle]

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Thanks for your help

[jtwinkle]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

Let me explain -

PCN + Court Fee = £82.00 Exempt from VAT
Letter Fee = £11.20 Subject to VAT @ 20%
Attend to Levy on £93.20 = £28.00 Subject to VAT @ 20%
Attend to Remove/Removal Costs = £0.00 because the disingenuous so-and-so didn't remove
VAT on £39.20 @ 20% = £7.84
Total = £129.04

Any bailiff or bailiff company caught adding VAT to fines and/or court costs is asking to get a visit from HMRC as that amounts to VAT Fraud.

Thank you for explaining! So £303.05 overcharged.

[bluebottle]

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JT.

Sending you a PM.

[ploddertom]

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Any bailiff or bailiff company caught adding VAT to fines and/or court costs is asking to get a visit from HMRC as that amounts to VAT Fraud.

Don't follow what you mean.

As VAT on Fines & Penalties is not reclaimable there is no need for the Bailiff to produce a VAT receipt in the manner we are accustomed to seeing.

[bizzybob]

Re: Marston Fees - does this sound right?

Don't follow what you mean.

As VAT on Fines & Penalties is not reclaimable there is no need for the Bailiff to produce a VAT receipt in the manner we are accustomed to seeing.

The VAT they charge on the exempt portion is allegedly a thrutch (fiddle) that ends up in the bailiffs back pocket with no record to the VAT man.