rossendale bailiffs

[louisejane]

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Council added the £95

[bluebottle]

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Council added the £95

Whilst the council may have added it, who informed that they had and when did who told you they had tell you? If it was Rossendales, after they had written to you initially, that is suspect and needs further investigation.

[louisejane]

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And council informed me of those costs f

[louisejane]

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It was on there final notice
Ive read online they can only charge £3 for taking you to court is that correct?

[CleverClogs]

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Getting a local authority to admit they overcharged when obtaining a liability order is likely to be more than slightly difficult.

Moving on, can you say how many times the bailiff visited each address - and when?

(If he had only visited once before his "levy", he should not have charged for the second visit.)

[Sir Vere Brayne d'Emmidge]

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http://s18.postimg.org/bwp0t2515/20140101_170257.jpg

The levy is not worth the wasted paper is written on!

Laptop, no model no serial number not even a colour, besides, unless the bailif carries with him some proprietary software to clear the hard drive of all information stored, it can not be taken because of the date that could be covered by the DPA.

The above applies to the phone as well.

[bizzybob]

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The levy is not worth the wasted paper is written on!

Laptop, no model no serial number not even a colour, besides, unless the bailif carries with him some proprietary software to clear the hard drive of all information stored, it can not be taken because of the date that could be covered by the DPA.

The above applies to the phone as well.

If the bailiff were to delete the data at the scene whilst taking the laptop or at any time until just prior to sale he may well be guilty of the offence of Criminal Damage, as a debtor may redeem the goods Police are also guilty if they delete images or footage from a camera on a stop and search or at a doorstep when the bailiff is filmed as the MET found out to their cost.

[louisejane]

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I discussed this with rossendales they said they'd have to get an outside company to remove all data and therefore incur further cost's
Im pretty much fighting a losing battle
I visisted citizens advice yest and they couldn't help
Iv emailed rossendales stating i dont agree with charges
Ive to ring bailif personally today hopefully to sort out a payment plan
I dont want to give in and pay but looks as though its my only option to keep the tosser away :'(

[CleverClogs]

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I discussed this with rossendales they said they'd have to get an outside company to remove all data and therefore incur further costs

That, frankly, is utter nonsense.

Im pretty much fighting a losing battle

You will be if you try attacking them from the front - you have to outflank the buggers!

I visisted citizens advice yest and they couldn't help

Citizens' Advice Bureaux can be useful or can be useless - it largely depends on the sort of volunteers they get.

Iv emailed rossendales stating i dont agree with charges

I rather doubt that they'll lose much sleep over that.

Ive to ring bailif personally today hopefully to sort out a payment plan

Why do you want the bugger to help himself to even more of the money you're trying to pay the council?

He'll probably charge a "Removal/van fee" every time he comes out for a payment - so that will be £160 added to the debt, every time!

I dont want to give in and pay but looks as though its my only option to keep the tosser away :'(

So pay the remaining money directly to the council, as soon as possible.

[bluebottle]

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That, frankly, is utter nonsense.


You will be if you try attacking them from the front - you have to outflank the buggers!


Citizens' Advice Bureaux can be useful or can be useless - it largely depends on the sort of volunteers they get.


I rather doubt that they'll lose much sleep over that.


Why do you want the bugger to help himself to even more of the money you're trying to pay the council?

He'll probably charge a "Removal/van fee" every time he comes out for a payment - so that will be £160 added to the debt, every time!


So pay the remaining money directly to the council, as soon as possible.

Totally agree with you, Cloggy. By doing this, the OP only pays what lawful fees are due to Rossendales. As long as they make it clear to the council they are lawful fees and that Rossendales are told that their lawful fees have been paid to the council and they should apply to them for payment, all well and good. However, if Rossendales come back, throwing their weight about and demanding unlawful fees, the OP's OH should not hesitate to remove whoever turns up with the toe of their boot.

[bluebottle]

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If the bailiff were to delete the data at the scene whilst taking the laptop or at any time until just prior to sale he may well be guilty of the offence of Criminal Damage, as a debtor may redeem the goods Police are also guilty if they delete images or footage from a camera on a stop and search or at a doorstep when the bailiff is filmed as the MET found out to their cost.

Interesting. Please enlighten me about the Met's act of stupidity, BB.

[CleverClogs]

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Totally agree with you, Cloggy. By doing this, the OP only pays what lawful fees are due to Rossendales. As long as they make it clear to the council they are lawful fees and that Rossendales are told that their lawful fees have been paid to the council and they should apply to them for payment, all well and good. However, if Rossendales come back, throwing their weight about and demanding unlawful fees, the OP's OH should not hesitate to remove whoever turns up with the toe of their boot.

louisejane has already paid money to the Rottendales spiv and they, of course, have deducted their fees (lawful and reasonable, or unlawful and/or unreasonable) before handing on a tiny amount to the council. As I see it, she doesn't owe the bästärd bailiff anything except, perhaps, an irredeemable curse on him and all his crotchspawn.

[bluebottle]

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louisejane has already paid money to the Rottendales spiv and they, of course, have deducted their fees (lawful and reasonable, or unlawful and/or unreasonable) before handing on a tiny amount to the council. As I see it, she doesn't owe the bästärd bailiff anything except, perhaps, an irredeemable curse on him and all his crotchspawn.

Thank you for clarifying that, Cloggy. All we need to do now is calculate what lawful fees Rossendales are due, what the OP has paid and to what extent Rossendales have ripped-off the local authority. There is likely to be a clause in the contract between Rossendales and the OP's local authority that Rossendales account for all monies received. If the OP's local authority is following proper governance and scrutiny procedures, they should conduct a random audit. The sad fact is, local authority posts are being cut - a local authority near to me is planning to cut 300 posts - and one of the first things to suffer is proper governance and scrutiny. The OP needs to badger their ward councillors to have their case subject to audit and scrutiny. Unless the councillors are complicit, they should do what they are elected to do and that is hold council officers to account and contractors, too. Reminding the councillors of their liability under the HRA and that of their contracted enforcement agents might focus their minds.

[bizzybob]

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Try these for size BB
The MET were using S44 Terrorism Act to harass photographers and Japanese tourists taking pictures of things like Nelsons Column, a schoolboy was assaulted by police by being pushed down steps whilst filming a parade


http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...update-12-05pm
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...k-breaking-law

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...cer-blasts-met

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12..._police_rules/

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...re-a-nightmare

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...mplaint-update

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...eep-them-handy

And the list goes on

[bizzybob]

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louisejane has already paid money to the Rottendales spiv and they, of course, have deducted their fees (lawful and reasonable, or unlawful and/or unreasonable) before handing on a tiny amount to the council. As I see it, she doesn't owe the bästärd bailiff anything except, perhaps, an irredeemable curse on him and all his crotchspawn.

No the bailiff owes her the difference between 2 visit fees and his outrageous fleecing, which he should forward to the council to allocate against her debt forthwith, or may he suffer from an indescribably irritating crotch-itch or a rotting cordwangle.