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How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

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  • How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

    What kind of proceedings do I need to issue to get a court order against a bailiff ordering him to remove an unlawfully applied car clamp? Please be specific , i.e. what is the exact wording of the order am I seeking, what kind of court do I apply to, what forms to I use to apply for the order, what do I put on the forms. Do I issue the proceedings against the individual bailiff or the firm he works for? I want to issue proceedings against the bailiff or his company NOT the local authority
    Background is the car is owed by a limited company (and this can be proved). The car has been clamped under a council tax liability order against an individual. Bailiff has been made aware that car is owned by third party but has refused to remove clamp.
    Only documentation left through letter box when car was clamped was “Removal Notice (car details) clamped to be removed. Magistrates Liability order dated xxx arrears of council tax due to xxx total outstanding xxx, I have today attended your premises with the intention of levying and removing your goods and chattels to the auction value of xxx. I will be re-attending and goods may be removed even in your absence. If you wish to avoid this distressing course of action Telephone Immediately”
    Options I’ve already considered but can’t see that they would work are
    1. Issuing an interpleader summons. Can’t do that as car has not been actually seized, only clamped. No valid levy has been made (or if it had it has been abandoned) so can’t use interpleader route
    2. Issuing proceedings under Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. S3 looks the most promising. However the relief available is only for delivery of the goods and/or damages. The goods haven’t been removed, just clamped
    3. Issuing form 4 complaint against bailiff, Not a good idea as potential to be very expensive if costs are awarded. Also only deals with Bailiff fitness to hold certificate, does nothing on getting clamp removed
    4. Issuing proceedings under Protection from Harassment Act 1997 S3. Difficult as owner of vehicle is a company, not a person, and act appears to be very much aimed at protecting real persons from harassment
    5. Issuing proceedings under The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992, Section 46. Looks promising but is only available against levy or attempt to levy. No valid levy appears to have been made, merely the car has been clamped. Also this route only appears available to the person that the levy was aimed against, not a third party company

    Note that the advice sought for now is just to get a court to order the clamp removed. The financial lost incurred, hire of other cars, time, and trouble, is a question for another day once the clamp has been removed

    Any advice gratefully received and will post success/non-success story
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  • #2
    Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

    Cutting the clamp off ?

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    • #3
      Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

      Originally posted by wales01man View Post
      Cutting the clamp off ?
      No thanks. Want to go court order route.

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      • #4
        Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

        Fair enough someone may know the route to take in court have you contacted the bailiffs and council ?

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        • #5
          Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

          Originally posted by larcy View Post
          Issuing proceedings under Torts (Interference with Goods) Act 1977. S3 looks the most promising. However the relief available is only for delivery of the goods and/or damages. The goods haven’t been removed, just clamped.
          It might be argued that clamping the vehicle has made it unavailable for use. Thus, it should be 'delivered' back to the legitimate owner and user. Similarly, if the user has suffered loss and inconvenience as a result of the clamping, damages may be appropriate.

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          • #6
            Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

            Originally posted by larcy View Post
            No thanks. Want to go court order route.
            You could get a locksmith (or if appropriate, a knowledgable mechanic), to remove the clamp. You then seize the clamp, pending satisfaction of your claim.

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            • #7
              Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

              There are two civil issues that apply -

              1. Unlawful Interference with Property; and
              2. Unlawful Detention of Property.

              It might be worth contacting the DVLA Data Access Unit and enquiring as to whether anyone has made any enquiries in respect of the vehicle in the last 180 days. Do not ask whom, only if anyone has. If DVLA confirm no-one has made any enquiries, then the bailiff, their employers and the council hiring them are on dodgy ground. Clamping a vehicle that belongs to a third party is a no-no.

              The limited company, as the registered owner/keeper of the vehicle, will need to deal with the bailiff. However, checking with DVLA as to whether the bailiff has conducted any checks as to ownership is a step that needs to be taken.
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              • #8
                Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

                The Council are ultimately responsible for this. You say you have shown proof to the Bailiff and he has ignored. Provide the proof instead to the Council via FAX or email with a copy being sent to the Bailiffs Office. Done now you give them until the end of business today to comply.

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                • #9
                  Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

                  This final post (#8) is by far the easiest path to tread over this issue. It will save you hours of work!

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to apply for a Court order to get an unlawful clamp removed

                    Originally posted by ploddertom View Post
                    The Council are ultimately responsible for this. You say you have shown proof to the Bailiff and he has ignored. Provide the proof instead to the Council via FAX or email with a copy being sent to the Bailiffs Office. Done now you give them until the end of business today to comply.
                    Totally agree, but it's even better by recorded delivery to both, at least you are going to get signatures.
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