Bailiffs from CSA

[Mummy3]

My husband left his ex 13 years ago and was paying CSA until we started having our own kids but we couldnt afford to live after the CSA payments so my husband gave up his job and I went out to work and have been doing so for 8 years. my husband informed the CSA that he was no longer working but over the years he kept getting letters so he owed loads of money, recently they said the were refering his case to the bailiffs and today we got a bailiff notice from Rossendales saying he has 24 hours to pay 33k our they will be taking his stuff. we live in my council house and everything we own is in my name so can they get in my house and start taking my stuff? also if hes not worked for over 8 years how can they possibly say he owes 33 thousand pounds

[cards down]

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Hi Mummy3, Just bumping your thread. the brains of the outfit will be along shortly

[Sapphire]

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I think you'll find that the £33k is made up of all the missed payments to his first family.

Here have a read of this it may help you https://www.gov.uk/how-child-maintenance-is-worked-out

Another good bit of reading http://www.separateddads.co.uk/how-m...d-support.html

Sorry I can't give you some positive advice but at least you can prepare. I'm sure someone else will pop along and help more though.

[bluebottle]

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My husband left his ex 13 years ago and was paying CSA until we started having our own kids but we couldnt afford to live after the CSA payments so my husband gave up his job and I went out to work and have been doing so for 8 years. my husband informed the CSA that he was no longer working but over the years he kept getting letters so he owed loads of money, recently they said the were refering his case to the bailiffs and today we got a bailiff notice from Rossendales saying he has 24 hours to pay 33k our they will be taking his stuff. we live in my council house and everything we own is in my name so can they get in my house and start taking my stuff? also if hes not worked for over 8 years how can they possibly say he owes 33 thousand pounds

What the CSA are doing seems unjust and may constitute a breach of the Human Rights Act. Your husband informed the CSA he was no longer working, as required. Commonsense tells you that if someone is no longer working, them have no income. The adage, "You can't get blood out of a stone" comes to mind.

Your husband needs to seek professional legal advice on this matter. Your local Law Centre or the Community Legal Service can provide free or very low-cost legal advice/assistance.

Hope this helps.

[wales01man]

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Have to agree with Bluebottle if you dont work cos your a full time house father you have no income no money,have to ask where do the morons who run the CSA and the bailiffs think someone in a council house not working gets 33k overnight i bet the bailifs and most of their fellow staff coulb not raise that,Wheres the commonsense in any of this the IQ of the bailiff industry must average below zero?
Hope they seek the advice they need im all for absent fathers paying but if thre no money there is no money FACT

[bizzybob]

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Problem is the numpties at CSA will assess the whole family so may well come after some of partners income, which will be assessed as part of the household income.

As per bluebottle legal advice PDQ

[bluebottle]

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TBH, I wouldn't put that past the CSA, bb. However, whether that would be legal or not is another matter. I very much doubt it as the OP is not the absent parent or lawful debtor. CSA would, IMHO, be acting unlawfully if they did try to pursue the OP.

[bizzybob]

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TBH, I wouldn't put that past the CSA, bb. However, whether that would be legal or not is another matter. I very much doubt it as the OP is not the absent parent or lawful debtor. CSA would, IMHO, be acting unlawfully if they did try to pursue the OP.

Like one of our most least favourite bailiff companies, the CSA think they are above the law. I think whether OP is the debtor or not, as the partner their income will be assessed in connection with any payments. i ecall a friend, whose new husband was being chased by CSA, and they took a part of her income even though they now had a child of their own, to pay his ex.

This is why professional advice is best option.

[Sapphire]

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Reading back I see that you have received letters over the years about this, have you actually replied to them ? If not, then why not ? If you have then what did you tell them ?

I'm afraid that they, like a lot of people will just see it that your hubby giving up work has just been a way for him to get out of paying for the children from his previous marriage, sorry to sound harsh, but surely those children deserved his help as well as your children.

[Inca]

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My husband left his ex 13 years ago and was paying CSA until we started having our own kids but we couldnt afford to live after the CSA payments so my husband gave up his job and I went out to work and have been doing so for 8 years. my husband informed the CSA that he was no longer working but over the years he kept getting letters so he owed loads of money, recently they said the were refering his case to the bailiffs and today we got a bailiff notice from Rossendales saying he has 24 hours to pay 33k our they will be taking his stuff. we live in my council house and everything we own is in my name so can they get in my house and start taking my stuff? also if hes not worked for over 8 years how can they possibly say he owes 33 thousand pounds

So,,his other kids no longer needed food? warmth? a roof over their heads? clothing? Your children with him are far more important than ones he already had?
I see you have pre empted any possible financial penalties affecting you by putting everything in your name but that might not work as some debts are enforceable as a couple (not sure on this one though,hopefully someone else can clarify).And No,,33k isn't unreasonable over 8 years,,plus you have always known about it and left it till you have been forced to deal with it. It's amazing how many absent parents will go out of their way to avoid paying for their offspring until BillyBailiff rocks up and they start to panic,thinking all their goods and chattels are in jeopardy.
Best advice is go to CAB and/or a solicitor to find out how to either dispute the sum or make payment arrangements (bear in mind the Mother may not agree to instalments)
Sorry if this sounds harsh but to blatantly alter your lives just to avoid supporting existing children is totally unfair.

[Inca]

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What the CSA are doing seems unjust and may constitute a breach of the Human Rights Act. Your husband informed the CSA he was no longer working, as required. Commonsense tells you that if someone is no longer working, them have no income. The adage, "You can't get blood out of a stone" comes to mind.

Your husband needs to seek professional legal advice on this matter. Your local Law Centre or the Community Legal Service can provide free or very low-cost legal advice/assistance.

Hope this helps.

Sorry BB,,normally I wouldn't butt in on a post but WHAT ABOUT THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN SIDELINED FOR THE NEW FAMILY??
There IS an income,,there is blood to get out of a stone,,the OP WORKS...and as the 'breadwinner' the money for the other children should come out of her wages.You can't just decide not to support them cos it doesn't suit you anymore.The OP admits they have been getting letters about this,so it's no great surprise.
I appreciate everyones deploration of bailiffs,,I'm no great fan,,but to openly state that 'we were paying till we had our own kids' smacks of severe selfishness and lack of moral judgement IMVHO.

[wales01man]

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Have to agree with a lot INCA says but where do you think 33 grands coming from?

[Inca]

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Some statistic way back,,wales, estimated that to get a child to school leaving age roughly costs 90+ grand....when you think of all the food,clothes,heat,shoes,school stuff..it's probably more than that per child.

[wales01man]

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INCA
what i said was where do they 33 grand from the bailiff demanded it in 24 hours im not saying the father shouldnt pay but at the same time why should the OP pay will you let her kids starve?
As i said fathers should pay for their kids but like everthing that costs if you aint got the money you aint got it

[PlanB]

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If the OP's husband is capable of abandoning his children from the first marriage, would he also do the same thing if the second marriage ever collapsed? Maybe the first wife has had a lucky escape :nod:

Bailiffs can't take anything that doesn't belong to the person named on the warrant. But they would expect proof of ownership so if you've got receipts for your car or TV etc in your sole name then put them in a folder ready for when the bailiffs call.

If he's ignored letters from the CSA it may be too late to raise a complaint or a review of these charges especially if they have used the courts to enforce. They're not psychic so how would they know he's not been working or anything at all about his financial circumstances? He should contact the CSA immediately and ask them if they'd be willing to suspend the bailiffs' action while they investigate the accuracy of the sum due. He may be able to take his complaint all the way to the Independant Case Examiner but I fear he's out of time unless there's a good reason and I can't think of one. Here is how to do it:

https://www.gov.uk/child-maintenance/how-to-complain