Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

[bluebottle]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Hi
Please could you provide the Marston reference number in order for us to identify the case and investigate futher.
Many thanks
Marston Group

Perhaps, Marston Group, you would care to deal with the thug your company employs and who seriously injured a female in Plymouth last August. The woman had no connection with the case your employee was on and she had previously told your company twice that the person did not reside at her address. The female is now unable to walk without crutches and it is likely that she will never be able to walk properly again. Your employee did a runner before the police arrived. I am a retired policeman who has studied law since retiring. The matter of your employee's actions is serious and he could be facing some very serious consequences.

[bizzybob]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

I'm sure that the site team could be persuaded to name the thug bluebottle is referring to, his name is well known on advice forums.

[pepsie]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Hi
Please could you provide the Marston reference number in order for us to identify the case and investigate futher.
Many thanks
Marston Group

Do you really need a reference number to identify 'the case'? is this admission that you have so many bailiffs assaulting people that you can't keep track of their victims?

pepsie

[bizzybob]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Marstons have several bailiff assaults on third parties to their dubious credit, and they need to be brought to account for their bailiffs thuggery, hopefully the other thread naming the twitting woman, will go viral, and the MOJ will be embarrassed into doing something about this woeful company. Even the collection of a criminal fine especially if it is something like TV licence is not so important as to cost a third party their health or life. sadly these bailiffs seem to think it is.

[CleverClogs]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

What is so lamentable is that bailiffs in general - and not just those employed or self-employed by the Marston Group - seem quite unable or unwilling to keep to the Contact Protocols laid down in Appendix G of their contract.

See attached file.

[MissFM]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Indeed Clever Clogs - the protocols in Appendix G seem to be routinely and blatantly flouted - an absolute disgrace.

[bizzybob]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Do you think they even read as far as Appendix G?

[CleverClogs]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Probably not - their intellectual expert may not have progressed very far beyond "Janet and John".

[bluebottle]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

The collection of court fines should never have been outsourced to the private sector in the first place.

HMCTS employ Warrant Officers who do the same thing and are fully accountable to the taxpayer as they are civil servants and, consequently, Crown Servants, as are police officers and members of H.M. Armed Forces.

The claim that outsourcing the collection of court fines to the private sector means there is no cost to the taxpayer is a myth. There is a cost to the taxpayer and this is compensation, legal costs and other payments to those private sector contractors defraud, injure or maim.

Instead of inviting tenders for private sector bailiff companies to collect court fines, the MoJ would make better use of taxpayers' money advertising HMCTS Warrant Officers' posts. At least, then, the risk of thuggery and fraud will be removed and the taxpayer will not be exposed to loss through having to indemnify private sector contractors because of Vicarious Liability.

[bizzybob]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

About time the rug was pulled from under these bullies, the egregious mare Boswell, and the other violent bailiff who maimed the third party in Plymouth , being the first in court and given jail time, reckon it is a possibility bluebottle?

[MissFM]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

[QUOTE=bluebottle;314410]The collection of court fines should never have been outsourced to the private sector in the first place

Yes, this present system condones behaviour worthy of the worst kind of racketteering hit squad - punishment and intimidation - sponsored by the taxpayer. Nothing to do with debt collection because when people have nothing there is nothing to collect. It's wrong on every level

[bluebottle]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Without prejudicing any investigation, the circumstances of Boswell's actions indicate that a number of offences are evident. The thug involved in the incident in Plymouth last year is potentially looking at a charge of Unlawful Wounding (GBH). Perhaps, Marston Group would care to contact me about their thug, sorry, employee. The lady who is the victim is so traumatised and terrified the bailiff involved will return, she has moved home. A lot of people in Plymouth are, I understand, very angry about the incident. I wouldn't like to be a Marston Group bailiff working in Plymouth because it is not beyond the realms of possibility they will receive a hostile reception, thanks to the actions of the bailiff involved.

[bluebottle]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

[QUOTE=MissFM;314416]

The collection of court fines should never have been outsourced to the private sector in the first place

Yes, this present system condones behaviour worthy of the worst kind of racketteering hit squad - punishment and intimidation - sponsored by the taxpayer. Nothing to do with debt collection because when people have nothing there is nothing to collect. It's wrong on every level

When the Thatcher government tried to force local authorities to outsource council services, a friend of mine, now retired, was responsible for drawing up the specifications for the tenders for one particular council. Even after taking redundancy compensation into account, it was discovered that it was cheaper and a better quality of service achievable by keeping the services within public hands. It's time for the politicians to do the unthinkable and cancel all further privatisations and rescind the contracts of all private sector parasites currently running local and central government services. That, I would not doubt, would save a huge sum of money.

[bizzybob]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

Without prejudicing any investigation, the circumstances of Boswell's actions indicate that a number of offences are evident. The thug involved in the incident in Plymouth last year is potentially looking at a charge of Unlawful Wounding (GBH). Perhaps, Marston Group would care to contact me about their thug, sorry, employee. The lady who is the victim is so traumatised and terrified the bailiff involved will return, she has moved home. A lot of people in Plymouth are, I understand, very angry about the incident. I wouldn't like to be a Marston Group bailiff working in Plymouth because it is not beyond the realms of possibility they will receive a hostile reception, thanks to the actions of the bailiff involved.

Has the Plymouth Marstons thug been apprehended yet? Or will he fetch up working in another town for Marstons? the mind boggles, lawbreaking condoned to collect what may be a TV Licence fine for Mammon!

[bluebottle]

Re: Certificated Bailiff (Marstons) Sussex Area

The certificated thug you speak of, Bizzybob, tends to operate in the County of Devon. In one day, Sheila Harding of Bailiff Advice Online received no fewer than four phone calls about his behaviour. He is a thug and a bully and Marston Group would be doing the right thing by submitting a Form 5 to Exeter Combined Court Centre, where he is certificated, with a view to the court revoking his certificate. His history clearly indicates he is not a fit and proper person to be acting as a bailiff.