Bailiff tries to force entry whilst a mother carries her 9 week old daughter

[Caspar]

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Absolutely true. Different rules for different situations.

[teaboy2]

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Thanks for clarifying guys, but i must admit that it does sound irish to me (nothing against the irish by the way as am of irish/viking descent). I would have thought the charges and fees would have been enforceable along with the debt or could have been enforced seperately. But like i said bailiffs are not my area, but am willing to learn.

[Amy]

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Council tax law is complex and very different from other areas where bailiffs may be involved, but if you want some bedtime reading, have a read of my posts in the council tax sub forum.

[CleverClogs]

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Thanks for clarifying guys, but i must admit that it does sound irish to me (nothing against the irish by the way as am of irish/viking descent). I would have thought the charges and fees would have been enforceable along with the debt or could have been enforced seperately. But like i said bailiffs are not my area, but am willing to learn.

One difference is, of course, that many/most of the offences for which a fine has been imposed could also carry the penalty of some weeks or months in gaol.

[Scared Mother]

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Hi

Both debts are magistrates fines - not a parking ticket as I first thought - the outstanding one was a court fine he was making payments on until his account went over drawn and the bank stopped paying. He'd then changed addresses a couple of times and it's finally arrived here and it started off at £125 outstanding. He had sent and income and expenditure form to Marston's and made a £5 per month offer but they refused and gave him 28 days to pay which he obviously couldn't do.

The N245 filed on the outstanding warrant is just to stop the bailiff coming and hopefully have the court accept the £5 per month.

Thank you all again for the advice and support.

SM xx

[SpringerSpaniel]

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He should apply to the Court for a means hearing and send the I and E to the court's Fines Officer.

Other posters with magistrates' court fines outstanding have had good results from this route.

[ExBailiff31]

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It is true, search my posts, I've written about this a lot.

Thank you Amy for claifying this, I know it sounds strange but that is exactly the reason the Bailiff will clamp and remove your car straight away if you don't pay him and very rarely will he make an arrangement to pay by installment for parking offences.

[CleverClogs]

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In other words, it really has nothing at all to do with the bailiff being an overbearing bully who habitually overcharges for his 'services'?

[Amy]

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Thank you Amy for claifying this, I know it sounds strange but that is exactly the reason the Bailiff will clamp and remove your car straight away if you don't pay him and very rarely will he make an arrangement to pay by installment for parking offences.

You are very welcome. I happen to know quite a bit about bailiff law.

In other words, it really has nothing at all to do with the bailiff being an overbearing bully who habitually overcharges for his 'services'?

Absolutely correct. It has nothing to do with this and everything to do with the law.

See The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992, Part VI - Enforcement (52(4). Relationship between remedies) if you want to read up on it.

[CleverClogs]

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Thank you Amy for claifying this, I know it sounds strange but that is exactly the reason the Bailiff will clamp and remove your car straight away if you don't pay him and very rarely will he make an arrangement to pay by installment for parking offences.

In other words, it really has nothing at all to do with the bailiff being an overbearing bully who habitually overcharges for his 'services'?

Absolutely correct. It has nothing to do with this and everything to do with the law.

See The Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992, Part VI - Enforcement (52(4). Relationship between remedies) if you want to read up on it.

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It should be interesting and it could be quite informative if one might learn why you suppose regulations set out for the collection of Council Tax should govern the enforcement of a civil debt such as a decriminalised parking offence or, for that matter, the enforcement of a fine imposed by a magistrates' court.

[Amy]

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It would be nice if, just once, you actually read something and digested it fully and tried to learn in order to help others, rather than cherry picking the parts you want to read and forming your superfluous reply into some 'witty' attempt at making me look silly while at the same time attempting to appear learned.

[CleverClogs]

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It should be interesting and it could be quite informative if one might learn why [the blessed Amy might] suppose regulations set out for the collection of Council Tax should govern the enforcement of a civil debt such as a decriminalised parking offence or, for that matter, the enforcement of a fine imposed by a magistrates' court.

No answer posted.

[MEGLOS]

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